Air Force Bluebook

PROJECT BLUEBOOK, Brad Steiger, Ballentine Books, 221 East 50th Street,  New York N.Y. 10022, 1976, 425 pages, $4.90 TO $156.63.

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A rather interesting (if not a total rehash) about a few of the recordings from Air Force Project Blue Book  files which add some insight into the many UFO cases collected.  The famed Kenneth Arnold sighting is analyzed and some discrepancies brought to the fore.  The distance that Arnold saw his UFOs on June 24, 1947 is disputed.   “If Arnold actually saw the objects and if his estimate of distances is correct, that of size cannot be, and visa versa,” said the Air Force, “in view of the above, it appears probable that whatever objects were observed were intelligent and authentic agents in the sky, therefore,  had been some sort of known aircraft.”

The Mantell  case  of January 7, 1948  has been stated as an UFO attack on Mantell’s plane.  The Air Force files depict general confusion in which Mantell originally saw the planet Venus along with the flight of a Skyhook balloon—the two intrinsically tied into one sighting.   “The sighting might have included two or more balloons or aircraft; or they might have included both Venus (in the fatal crash) as well as balloons,”   said the Air Force.  

One gets the impression from the files Steiger has gleaned from the Air Force that the Air Force didn’t have a heck of a lot of information about ‘saucers.’    Dr. J. Allen Hynek makes an appearance in various forms and reports throughout the book, perplexed and even cynical, until, approximately, the time of the April 24, 1964, Lonnie Zamora ‘UFO landing.’ 

It appeared that the Air Force got tired of chasing ‘ghosts’ and in 1966 turned the whole mess over to the Condon UFO Committee investigation.

Civilian investigators have howled about an Air Force conspiracy but all this book has shown is their perplexity and even disgust with the inability of people to properly identify or hoax air objects.

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BY ALAN BOYLE on January 8, 2019 at 8:45 am

“Project Blue Book” turns some of the best-known UFO tales into a TV series, starring Aidan Gillen as investigator J. Allen Hynek. (History Channel Illustration)

“Project Blue Book,” the History Channel TV series making its debut tonight, takes its inspiration from classic UFO cases of the 1940s and 1950s — but for UFO fans who gathered to watch a Seattle preview of the first episode, the show hints at the shape of things to come as well.

“You won’t believe how many productions are coming down the pike right now to basically red-pill the public,” Michael W. Hall, the founder of a Seattle-area group called UFO iTeam, said at the screening. “The truth is out there, and guess what? We’re going to have to ‘fess up to it right away.”

“Project Blue Book” fictionalizes the real-life X-files of pioneer UFO investigator J. Allen Hynek. So it was natural for Hall — an attorney based in Edmonds, Wash., who styles himself as the “Paranormal Lawyer” — to put out the word to the more than two dozen UFOiTeam members to attend November’s movie-theater preview.

The series takes its name from the real-life Project Blue Book, a U.S. Air Force campaign that investigated UFO reports starting in the 1950s. Hynek was the scientific consultant for the project, as he was for two earlier investigations known as Project Sign and Project Grudge.

The trained astrophysicist eventually came to believe that some UFO sightings were genuine mysteries and deserved more serious scrutiny. Nevertheless, the Air Force shut the project down in 1970 .

Hynek, who passed away in 1986 at the age of 75, is a kindred spirit for UFO enthusiasts — and particularly for folks like Maureen Morgan, who is Washington state director for the Mutual UFO Network, also known as MUFON.

Morgan and other MUFON investigators take reports like the ones chronicled in “Project Blue Book” very, very seriously.

“Generally, when we call and interview everyone who submits a report about a sighting, invariably the first thing that comes out of their mouth is, ‘You’re going to think I’m crazy,’ ” she said. “And then I remind them who they’re talking to and say, ‘No, we’ve probably heard it before.’ ”

MUFON isn’t the only organization documenting anomalous aerial phenomena. The National UFO Reporting Center, or NUFORC, has been compiling records for decades. The center’s current director, Peter Davenport, has his headquarters in an converted ICBM missile site in Eastern Washington.

Washington state has a rich history of UFO sightings — going back to 1947, when private airplane pilot Kenneth Arnold reported seeing weird-looking aircraft flying past Mount Rainier at incredible speed. News stories about Arnold’s claims gave rise to the term “flying saucer,” and set the stage for the Roswell UFO incident weeks later.

Another 1947 UFO sighting in the Puget Sound region, known as the Maury Island Incident, entered local lore as well (and spawned a documentary that’s available to watch online).

The first few episodes of “Project Blue Book” focus on different locales — starting with North Dakota, the setting for a UFO incident reported by an Air National Guard pilot in 1948.

In the series premiere, Hynek (played by “Game of Thrones” veteran Aidan Gillen) is recruited by the Air Force to track down an explanation for the pilot’s sighting. He takes the job more seriously than the Air Force wants him to, however, and eventually runs up against shadowy spies and the infamous Men in Black.

Other early episodes take on the case of the Flatwoods Monster (West Virginia, 1952) and the mystery of the Lubbock Lights (Texas, 1951).

Will “Project Blue Book” become a phenomenon of “X Files” proportions? Based on the premiere, the show seems a bit too earnest to strike that chord. Throwing in some quirky “Monster of the Week” episodes and the geeky Lone Gunmen might liven things up. But that might clash with Hynek’s straight-arrow vibe.

The series’ serious tone certainly suited the folks on the UFO iTeam. For them, anomalous phenomena aren’t merely fodder for a retro TV show. In this age of media mistrust and government dysfunction, maybe programs like “Project Blue Book” are in line with the temper of the times.

“Without the MUFONs and the iTeams, without the National UFO Reporting Center, there is nothing out there, and it will revert to the deep state, whatever,” Morgan said. “It will go back to the same people who were behind Project Blue Book.”

The History Channel’s “Project Blue Book” premieres tonight. Check local listings for times.

GeekWire contributing editor Alan Boyle is an award-winning science writer and veteran space reporter. Formerly of NBCNews.com, he is the author of “The Case for Pluto: How a Little Planet Made a Big Difference.” Follow him via CosmicLog.com, on Twitter @b0yle, and on Facebook and MeWe.

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Lucas Reilly – January 24, 2019

Between 1952 and 1969, the U.S. Air Force conducted a series of studies on UFO sightings called Project Blue Book. Not only is there a new History Channel series about the program, but this year also marks the 50th anniversary of the project’s termination. Get to know the secretive program better.

1. PROJECT BLUE BOOK WASN’T THE GOVERNMENT’S FIRST UFO STUDY.

In 1947, a private pilot named Kenneth Arnold reportedly spotted nine glowing UFOs zooming over Washington’s Mount Rainier. The public went wild for the so-called “flying saucers.” Shortly after, the U.S. government launched Project SIGN to determine if such objects were a threat. In 1948, Project SIGN purportedly published a document called the “Estimate of the Situation,” which suggested that extraterrestrials were a possible explanation for UFO sightings. As the story goes, Air Force officials destroyed the document and launched a more skeptical investigation in the late 1940s  called Project GRUDGEBlue Book came a few years later.

2. THE “ESTIMATE OF THE SITUATION” WAS INSPIRED BY A MIND-BOGGLING EVENT.

In the 1960s, Air Force officials denied that the “Estimate of the Situation” document ever existed. Those who vouch for its authenticity, however, say the report was inspired by a 1948 UFO sighting in Alabama, after two experienced pilots saw a torpedo-shaped “glowing object” zip past their aircraft and rocket into the clouds. The report shocked and baffled many of Project SIGN’s researchers, though scientists would later claim the sighting was consistent with a bolide, or bright meteor.

3. “BLUE BOOK” WAS NAMED AFTER A COLLEGE TESTING STAPLE.

Whether UFOs are extraterrestrial in origin is debatable. What’s undeniable is that, during the 1950s, people routinely spotted (or thought they spotted) objects flying over the United States—and it was the onus of the U.S. military to figure out what they were and whether they posed any danger. Blue Book would earn its name because, at the time, Air Force officials equated studying the phenomenon with preparing for a collegiate “blue book” final exam.

4. OFFICIALS DEVELOPED A SPECIAL PROTOCOL FOR HANDLING UFO SIGHTINGS.

A central part of Project Blue Book was the creation of a standardized questionnaire for UFO sightings. Some sample prompts: “Draw a picture that will show the shape of the object or objects … What was the condition of the sky? … Did the object: Suddenly speed up and rush away at any time? Change shape? Flicker, throb, or pulsate?” Eventually, every U.S. Air Force base ended up designating a special officer to collect these UFO reports.

5. THOUSANDS OF REPORTS WERE COLLECTED—AND SOME HAVEN’T BEEN EXPLAINED.

By the time Project Blue Book was closed, officials had gathered 12,618 UFO reports. Of those, 701 were never explained. Nearly half of those unidentified UFOs appeared in 1952 when a whopping 1501 UFOs were sighted. (Interestingly, that following year, it became a crime for military personnel to discuss classified UFO reports with the public; the risk of breaking the law could mean up to two years imprisonment.)

6. PROJECT BLUE BOOK SAW FIVE LEADERSHIP CHANGES.

Each person in command saw the purpose of Project Blue Book differently. Captain Edward J. Ruppelt, for example, treated the job as a serious scientific quest and is often lauded as the project’s most impartial leader. (Notably, he is responsible for coining the term UFO.) Major Hector Quintanilla, who took over the project in 1963, was more interested in turning Blue Book into a PR front and focused on quelling the public’s interest in UFOs—a desire that would eventually lead to charges of a government cover-up.

7. BLUE BOOK MADE SUCH BAD SCIENTIFIC MISTAKES THAT CONGRESS HAD TO GET INVOLVED.

In 1965, Oklahoma Police, the Tinker Air Force Base, and a local meteorologist using weather radar independently tracked four unexplained flying objects. Under Quintanilla’s advisement, Project Blue Book would claim that these witnesses had simply observed the planet Jupiter. The problem with this explanation? Jupiter wasn’t even visible in the night’s sky. “The Air Force must have had its star finder upside-down during August,” Robert Riser, an Oklahoma planetarium director, said at the time. A series of more badly botched scientific explanations eventually led to a congressional hearing.

8. THE PROJECT’S DESIRE TO DISMISS UNIDENTIFIED PHENOMENA BOTHERED ITS SOLE SCIENTIST.

Project Blue Book had one consistent scientific consultant, astronomer Dr. J. Allen Hynek. In 1968, Hynek wrote: “The staff of Blue Book, both in numbers and in scientific training, is grossly inadequate … there is virtually no scientific dialogue between Blue Book and the outside scientific world … The statistical methods employed by Blue Book are nothing less than a travesty” [PDF]. Hynek held Quintanilla in particularly low regard, saying, “Quintanilla’s method was simple: disregard any evidence that was counter to his hypothesis.”

9. IN 2007, A NEW GOVERNMENT INQUIRY INTO UFOS WAS LAUNCHED.

Between 2007 and 2012, the U.S. government spent $22 million on a new UFO study called the “Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program.” (Nowadays, UFOs are called UAPs, or “Unidentified Aerial Phenomena”: You can watch one here.) This January, more than three dozen of the program’s studies became publicly available, revealing the government’s interest in everything from warp drives to invisibility cloaks.

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Debbie Siegelbaum, BBC News, Chicago

Amateur historian John Greenewald has spent nearly two decades requesting declassified information from the US government regarding UFOs.

Recently, he posted more than 100,000 pages of documents on the US Air Force’s internal UFO investigations to the internet. Here are the top five things to know from the open files of Project Blue Book.

1. Project Blue Book had a sizeable mission 

The origins of the ambitious project can be traced to June 1947, UFO researcher Alejandro Rojas tells the BBC.

The editor of Open Minds magazine says a well-respected businessman and pilot, Kenneth Arnold, was flying over Washington state when he witnessed several unidentified flying objects.

Arnold later described the crafts as “skipping like saucers”, which the media adopted and took to calling flying saucers.

This high-profile incident – along with several others, including a rumored UFO landing in Roswell, New Mexico, the same year – led the Air Force to launch an investigative body.

Named Project Blue Book and headquartered at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, the program was reportedly comprising only a handful of staff.

Nonetheless the group investigated 12,618 UFO sightings in a two-decade period.

2. Project Blue Book was created in a time of public unease 

Formed in the years immediately following World War Two, Project Blue Book was intended to stop the spread of public unease about a growing number of reported UFO sightings, including over such landmarks as the White House and US Capitol.

“There was a lot of hysteria with the public, and that to the military and government at the time was a big threat in itself,” Greenewald says. “It didn’t matter if UFOs were alien or not, they were causing a panic, so [the government] had to settle everybody’s nerves.”

Though frequently met with derision today, UFO sightings are said to have been discussed at the top levels of government in the 1940s and 1950s.

“It was taken very seriously back then,” Rojas says, with Central Intelligence Agency chiefs publicly claiming it was a real phenomenon and even then-Congressman Gerald Ford warning it needed to be investigated.

In 1966 a separate Air Force committee was set up to further delve into some of the cases within Project Blue Book. That group later released a report finding no evidence of UFO activity.

Project Blue Book was officially shuttered in 1969.

3. Many of the Project Blue Book cases appear open-and-shut

 Though many credible sources, from Navy admirals to military and civilian pilots, reported seeing UFOs, most of the cases investigated by Project Blue Book were deemed caused by weather balloons, swamp gases, meteorological events or even temperature inversions.

In Seattle, Washington, in April 1956, a witness described seeing a “round, white object, one-half the size of the moon … [and] going round and round”, according to documents.

Investigators later concluded it was a meteor and closed the case.

In January 1961 in Newark, New Jersey, a witness reported viewing a dark grey object “about the size of a jet with no wings”.

That object was later deemed a jet aircraft flying in the area.

4. Some Project Blue Book cases aren’t so easily explained

 According to Greenewald and Rojas, more than 700 Project Blue Book entries could not ultimately be explained by investigators. Many such cases cited insufficient data or evidence.

But even some of the closed cases raise more questions than answers for UFO researchers.

In one such example, a police officer in 1964 in Socorro, New Mexico, halted vehicular pursuit of a suspect after he saw a strange aircraft overhead.

The officer followed the craft – which he described as bearing a strange red insignia – and saw it land and two child-sized beings exit.

It later took off, leaving scorch marks and trace evidence on the ground.

“[Project] Blue Book labelled it unexplained; even after all these decades they still can’t explain it,” Greenewald says.

5. There is still information to be uncovered about UFO activity

 Though Greenewald has amassed a stockpile of government documents, he says there are still many he – and the public – has not yet accessed.

One request to the National Security Agency yielded hundreds of pages, but they were so redacted only a few words were readable on each page, he says.

Other US government entities – including the Central Intelligence Agency and Defense Intelligence Agency – also conducted UFO investigations that have not been publicly released, Greenewald notes.

“I think Project Bluebook … is simply the tip of the iceberg,” he says, adding he will continue to request more information from the US government.

“There are secrets after conspiracies after scandals that continue to come out,” Greenewald concludes. “There’s always something to go after.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-secret-ufo-files-could-cause-grave-damage-to-us-national-security-if-released-navy-says/

In November 2004, several U.S. Navy pilots stationed aboard the USS Nimitz encountered a Tic-Tac-shaped UFO darting and dashing over the Pacific Ocean in apparent defiance of the laws of physics. Navy officials dubbed the strange craft an “unidentified aerial phenomenon,” but they have remained mum on what, exactly, that phenomenon could’ve been. Now, unsurprisingly to anyone who’s ever considered making a hat out of tinfoil, the military has confirmed they know more than they’re letting on.

In response to a recent Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, a spokesperson from the Navy’s Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) confirmed that the agency possesses several top-secret documents and at least one classified video pertaining to the 2004 UFO encounter, Vice reported

According to the ONI spokesperson, these documents were either labeled “SECRET” or “TOP SECRET” by the agencies that provided them, and that sharing the information with the public “would cause exceptionally grave damage to the National Security of the United States.”

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The Secret of Project Blue Book

By

ABC News

January 7, 2006, 5:53 AM

Feb. 24, 2005 — — Today, if you ask the Air Force about UFOs, it will cite its own 22-year study called Project Blue Book, which said there is no evidence that they are extraterrestrial vehicles and there is no evidence that they represent technology beyond our own.

Blue Book, based at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, investigated hundreds of UFO reports yearly throughout the 1950s and 1960s.

But the truth is Blue Book never became a serious, full-scale, scientific inquiry. The main purpose of the Air Force’s UFO office was public relations, says Robert Goldberg, author of “Enemies Within: The Culture of Conspiracy in Modern America.”

“That mission was denouncing the UFOs, dismiss the UFOs, debunk the UFOs and anybody who believes in them — just come up with answers and get this UFO thing out of the newspapers,” he told ABC News.

Blue Book was far from a massive institute with a staff of white-coated lab technicians, said UFO researcher Mark Rodeghier. “There was a guy at a desk and a secretary and a private or someone there typing stuff. It was a very, very small project,” he said.

Explaining It Away

Blue Book may have done some investigating, but it was overwhelmed by the volume of reports that were coming in.

Col. Robert Friend, the project’s director from 1958 to 1963, told ABC News: “We wanted to explain as many sightings as possible, but we recognized that the amount of resources that would have been necessary in order to do this would have been far beyond those that we were ready to commit at the time.”

He also recognized Project Blue Book’s real purpose: “What they wanted to try to do was, I think, to re-educate the public regarding UFOs, to take away the aura of mystery.”

And the best way to keep UFOs out of the newspapers — and therefore, out of the public mind — was to say repeatedly that they were nothing more than weather balloons or rare atmospheric conditions, like a star on the horizon.

Insistent Scientist

The man most often responsible for making these explanations was Blue Book’s one civilian scientist, Ohio State University astronomer J. Allen Hynek. Between 1948 and 1969, he was the lead investigator on thousands of cases.

In interviews from that time, he insisted “there is no proof that I would consider valid scientific proof that we have been visited by spaceships.”

Michael Swords, a professor of natural science at Western Michigan University and UFO researcher says Hynek’s job “was to stretch his imagination to try to find explanations for every possible case he could, even if he knew it didn’t make any sense.”

In a 1965 interview with one witness, Hynek argued with a woman who said she saw a UFO, insisting it was a meteor.

She asked, “Don’t you think it would be kind of unusual for a meteor to just fall across the road and hover over there a minute and then drop to the ground?”

Hynek replied: “The coming over wouldn’t be bad. It’s the hovering that would bother me.”

Seeing Stars

Project Blue Book even dismissed a sighting by experienced military personnel on high alert during the middle of the Cold War.

On the night of Oct. 24, 1968, Mike O’Connor was dispatched to make a repair at a missile site at Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota.

En route, he says he saw a bright light “lift off the ground, and parallel us down the road, until we came to the missile site.” When he got out of the truck, the light “just kind of hovered there,” he said.

The Minot control tower diverted a B-52 to investigate. The navigator on the B-52, Capt. Patrick McCaslin, remembers what he saw on the radar screen: “This thing was climbing out with us and maintaining the same heading we were. That was unusual. But what really watered my eyes [was] when this thing backed away and allowed us to turn inside of it.”

Capt. Brad Runyon, the B-52’s co-pilot, says he remembers the “overall object was a minimum of 200 feet in diameter and it was hundreds of feet long.”

“It had a metallic cylinder attached to another section that was shaped like a crescent moon. I felt that this crescent moon part was probably the command center. I tried to look inside the thing, but all I could see was a yellow glow.”

He says at that point he was fairly sure it was an alien spaceship, and when the crew members returned to base, they reported their sighting.

According to Blue Book’s investigation, the crew of the B-52 and 16 witnesses on the ground said they saw a UFO that night. In its final report, Blue Book concluded that they were all probably just seeing stars.

The Converted

The Air Force finally got out of the business of trying to explain UFOs in 1969 and closed Project Blue Book after an independent commission concluded that UFOs were of no scientific interest.

But there was one loud, dissenting voice: Blue Book’s once-skeptical chief scientist, Allen Hynek. After more than 20 years and more than 12,000 investigations, Hynek had become a believer.

In an interview at the time, he recalled how embarrassing it had been to take UFO accounts from military pilots during Blue Book because the Air Force had trained those men.

“They could say civilian pilots might’ve been untrustworthy, but they could hardly say that of their own military pilots. And we got case after case after case from military pilots, which never hit the press,” he said.

Hynek spent the rest of his life investigating sightings and calling for a serious scientific inquiry into the UFO phenomenon. Most of his fellow scientists rejected his opinions.

In 1973, he founded the Center for UFO Studies in Chicago to conduct more research into alleged sightings. He died in 1986.

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Who are the Abductors?

THE WALTON EXPERIENCE, Travis Walton, Barkley Medallion Books, 200 Madison Avenue, New YROK, N.Y.  10016. 1978. 181 PAGES.  Condition:

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Travis Walton finally updates on his mysterious claims that he was ‘zapped’  in the Arizona woods and taken aboard a UFO.   Was it really a hoax concocted  by the crew of forest workers? No, according to Travis Walton , not only did the men in the forest see a UFO but Travis was indeed taken aboard  the craft.    Polygraph tests seemed to indicate this, medical tests as well.  Yet, even though this case once again shows similarities  with several other UFO abduction cases  (bug eyed creatures,  large cranium humanoids, etc.), the inconsistencies are more puzzling. 

Could it possibly be, even though the outward appearances parade as authentic, that beneath its veneer   rests  a  mystery  larger than any ‘space visitors’ mysticism?    What could be more devastating than space visitors?    Perhaps Travis gives us a clue himself:  “By ‘alien’ I do not necessarily mean extraterrestrial.  I know of nothing that positively   indicates that these crafts or either their occupants came from outer space…(there are theorists that indicate a  reality) as being from this earth…”

Outlining the many theories, Travis, also details other offshoot  theories.   One of the many is the possible explanation that ‘saucers’ and /or ‘forces’ are apparitions  are ‘images’ or ‘symbols’ from the subconscious  triggered by electromagnetic energies from an intense field of energy (those oval lights in the night), sometimes so intense that one cannot look at he source.   The literal spaceship theory is a thing of the past, but what a more modern version will be, is yet hard to say.

“When I was first able to focus my eyes good enough, I was still on the table.    And as soon as I saw this face, and knew it wasn’t human, I tried to hit it away from me.    They were much smaller than me, and I think that’s the reason they gave up.   Once they found out they couldn’t control me, they split. I was absolutely terrified.”

Walton, pictured above, was declared missing for five days, during which time his logger buddies fell under suspicion of foul play.    When Walton finally turned up again, not knowing how long he’d been gone, an intense investigation was underway, including multiple polygraph, physical and psychological tests.

He tells HuffPost about little known aftermath details, including subsequent research in the forest area which has shown an unusual growth rate in trees in the immediate vicinity of the encounter.

“About 15 years later, it was discovered that the trees nearest to where [the UFO] hovered had been producing wood fiber at 36 times the rate it had in the 85 years before that,” Walton says. “More recently, a complete core sampling revealed that this thickened growth was only on the side of the trees towards, or in the direction that the craft had been.”

Walton addresses the stigma that he and so many other people — who claim encounters with possible alien beings — are generally considered unreliable wackos.

“The scientific evidence of the likelihood of intelligent life in our vicinity has become so overwhelming that the people who believe that we’re alone in the universe — those are the kooks.”

To commemorate the 40th anniversary of his close encounter, Walton will speak at the November Sky fire Summit in Arizona.    On the agenda is a road trip to the exact spot where this four-decade-long controversy began.

Early one November morning in 1975, a seven-man logging crew was returning home from working in Sit greaves National Park, near Snowflake, Arizona. What happened — and what they witnessed — from their truck is uncertain.

I could see out of this one craft — and I could see stars all around, but no planet or sun or anything like that.   So, at some distance from this solar system.- Travis Walton, self-described alien abductee

But at some point one of the men (Travis Walton, 22), disappeared — only to re-emerge five days later at a nearby gas station. He claimed he had been abducted by aliens.

Alleged alien abductee Travis Walton in 1975. (Michael Rogers/courtesy of Travis Walton).

As it Happens host Barbara Frum spoke with Mr. Walton later that month.   Here is part of that interview.

Barbara Frum: Mr. Walton, how are you?

Travis Walton: I’m feeling a lot better.

BF: Where were you?

TW: I don’t know.

BF: Can you tell us anything of what happened?

TW: I could see out of this one craft — and I could see stars all around, but no planet or sun or anything like that.   So, at some distance from this solar system.

I became conscious inside the craft. And I believed I was in the hospital. I was in a lot of pain. And as I became more conscious, I looked around and I saw alien beings and I just panicked.- Travis Walton

BF: When you got off the truck to see the object that the other people on the truck saw, do you remember what you thought when you were running toward it? 

TW: I just wanted to get a closer look. I didn’t have any idea of what would happen. 

BF: Did you hear the truck drive off without you? 

TW: No. I was unconscious at that time. I didn’t see any blue ray like they described. I just blacked out. I was just struck. And shocked, sort of.

BF: Now what’s the next thing you know for sure?

TW: I became conscious inside the craft. And I believed I was in the hospital. I was in a lot of pain. And as I became more conscious, I looked around and I saw alien beings and I just panicked. 

BF: How’d they look?

TW: They looked almost human. They were very white — on their skin, and hairless. And in reddish-brown coveralls.

BF: What do you mean ‘hairless’?

TW: No hair on the head, no eyebrows, no eyelashes.

BF: No moustaches?

TW: No. 

BF: How did they treat you?

TW: I reacted violently, because of the shock and the pain I was in. But looking back on it now, I don’t believe they had any harmful intentions. 

BF: What did they feed you?

TW: I don’t recall ever being fed. I was only conscious for two or three hours out of the five-and-a-half days. Hypnosis has been trying to see if there’s any blocked memory there, or if perhaps I was just totally unconscious for that time. But there was a mark on my arm that suggested intravenous feeding.

BF: How much weight did you lose in the five days?

TW: Ten or twelve pounds. I’ve regained all of about three pounds of that weight I’ve ost.  

BF: Anyone in Snowflake, Arizona, believing you?

TW: Acceptance is growing — especially since the final word of the experts that I was examined by after my return. A lot of negative publicity went out immediately, because since I was under testing and not available for any kind of an interview or comment, they just seized on a lot of speculation and a lot of negative things came out. But since then, acceptance has been growing tremendously. 

BF: Are you going to write a book?

TW: It’s been suggested to me. There’s so much to tell. It’d probably be a good idea.

The Hit The Lights Podcast

The Travis Walton UFO incident & Abduction

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The Travis Walton UFO incident & Abduction The Travis Walton UFO incident & Abduction

It is one of the most famous and at the same time one of the most controversial cases in Ufology.  Travis Walton is now a name that has become synonymous with the alien abduction phenomena thanks in no small part to the mass media attention his case received at the time.  This profile was only raised further with the release of the 1993 movie “Fire in the Sky” which chronicled the events surrounding his abduction.  But for all those who believe Walton’s story, there seem to be an equal number of people who doubt his authenticity and both he and the other witnesses to the events that fateful night have come under personal attacks by those claiming they faked the whole thing as part of some money-making scheme.

Walton’s story has left researchers, sceptics and law enforcement asking countless questions regarding their respective fields of interest.   But the one question everyone seems to want to know the answer to is this; just where was Travis Walton between November 5th and November 10th, 1975.   Was he as some have suggested, hiding out in a cabin or a tent deep in the forests of Arizona, waiting to re-emerge with tall tales of aliens?   Or was he indeed carried away by some unknown force for reasons that still elude us?

In this Destination Declassified video, we are going to break down key points in the Travis Walton case.   It is not our aim to prove Walton is telling the truth nor are we here to suggest he is a liar but until he or his colleagues come forward admitting it is a hoax or some previously undiscovered evidence emerges that proves he is telling the truth; we are left with deciding for ourselves what we want to believe.

The apparent alien abduction of (then) 22-year-old Travis Walton in the winter of 1975 is perhaps one of the most well-known of such encounters.   Not least due to Walton’s story resulting in a book and then the movie – Fire In The Sky.   It is also, perhaps ironically, this monetary “compensation” enjoyed by Walton that has led some to cast doubt on the incident, with several investigators claiming the account is nothing but a hoax. In September 2017, Walton would defend himself against such claims.   Although, as we will look at shortly, Walton did fail one lie-detector test, he has passed no less than sixteen others. The main witnesses to the incident also passed their lie-detector tests, and furthermore, it is hard to see what each of the men would have to gain by supporting an apparent hoax.

Travis Walton

It remains a case that fascinates most and divides opinion in others.   It is potentially, however, barring any kind of proof or admission of fabricated or manufactured events, one of the most important incidents of its kind. And certainly, one of the most documented and investigated.   The case is not only intriguing, but it also opens other avenues and areas of concern regarding the UFO and alien question.    Not least, the apparent rabid nature of skeptics, or perhaps even those that use skepticism as a shield to issue disinformation and cover over whatever truth might be available.

Before we move on look at this most intriguing encounter in more detail, check out the short video below.    It is the trailer to the “Fire In The Sky” movie.    As Walton would state later, the filmmakers used “artistic license” with some of the scenes on board the UFO, but the essence of the account is true to reality.

A Glow In The Woods

On the evening of 5th November 1975, at a little after 6 pm following another hard, grinding day sawing trees in the Apache-Sitgreaves region of the US National Forest, seven hired woodcutters were making their way home to the town of Snowflake,    Arizona in the head of the group, Michael Rogers’ pick-up truck.    As they chatted among themselves, the men, Rogers, and Walton, along with Ken Peterson, John Goulette, Steve Pierce, Allen Dallis, and Dwayne Smith, suddenly noticed a strange glow coming from the woodland that hugged the side of the road.    Thinking it was perhaps a forest fire, all the men were suddenly more attentive than they might have been, lest they became trapped in such a situation.

According to MUFON’s report on the incident, as they approached the hill in the road where the light was coming from, they suddenly saw a “large silver disc” hovering over a clearing in the roads. It glowed brightly, lighting up the patch of ground underneath it. Slightly in shock at what he was seeing,    Rogers would bring the truck to a stop.     As soon as he did so, and without warning, Walton would leap out of the passenger-side door and walked directly towards the strange, glowing craft.

Not hearing, or not listening to the rest of the woodcutting crew who were pleading and demanding he return to the truck, Walton continued until he was standing directly underneath the mystery object.    Then, strange mechanical turbine-like noises began to fill the air.    At the same time, the craft began to wobble, still in its hovering position.    Walton, perhaps now sensing something was about to happen, stepped back slightly and slowly began to back away.

Then, came the “beam of blue-green light”.

“Beam” Strike And Disappearance

According to the reports of UFO researcher, Jerome Clark, the witnesses from their vantage point from inside the truck, witnessed a blue-green beam strike Walton square in the chest.    This caused him to rise “a foot into the air, his arms and legs outstretched, and shoot back stiffly some ten feet”.    During this, Walton remained within the glow of the craft’s light. Suddenly he was seemingly flung to the ground “like he’d touched a live wire”, striking his shoulder upon landing “his body sprawled limply”, apparently dead.    That is certainly what the rest of the group initially thought as they sped away from the scene as quickly as they could.

What exactly happened next and in what exact timeframe varies slightly from account to account.    However, after initially fleeing the scene the remaining six made the decision to return to the area to retrieve their friend and colleague.    However, upon doing so, he was no longer there.    Despite being sure they had the correct location; he was simply nowhere to be seen.

More than unnerved and simmering towards panic, the men would drive to a shopping center in the nearby town of Heber. Again, while the exact timeframe varies slightly, sometime between 7:30 pm and 8 pm, Ken Peterson, on behalf of all six of them, phoned the local police.    His call was answered by Deputy Sheriff Chuck Ellison. Although on the phone Peterson stated merely that one of their crew had gone missing, Ellison still agreed to meet them at their location.

When he arrived, however, the men, all visibly distressed (with some close to tears) would tell them exactly what they had seen.

The crew of Travis Walton

“If They Were Acting, They Were Awfully Good At It!”

Perhaps naturally, Ellison was taken aback with the outlandish nature of such a serious claim. However, he would later state of the men’s demeanor and behavior, “if they were acting, they were awfully good at it”.

It was at this point, himself slightly overwhelmed with the strange nature of the apparent incident, that Ellison would contact his superior, Sheriff Marlin Gillespie.    His orders were to ask the men to remain at the shopping center under his supervision until he could arrive. Around 9 pm, Gillespie, along with police officer, Ken Coplan, pulled up their police car in Heber.

By this time, several members of the crew, Rogers, were becoming increasingly anxious. With the apparent lack of action Rogers would demand that a search was launched immediately and that they should return to the scene of the incident   . Although they were not able to utilize any police search dogs, several officers, along with Rogers, Peterson, and Dalis did examine the location.    However, there was no sign of Walton. And perhaps more importantly to their suspicions, there was no sign that anything as untoward as the crew were claiming had taken place.

The remaining crew members in the meantime would return to Snowflake and begin to inform family and friends of the bizarre situation.    As the night wore on the search would have to be delayed until the morning. However, there was concern among the police that Walton, who was dressed only in jeans, shirt, and a light jacket, would fall victim to the brutal winter-like, freezing conditions of the forest.

Suspicions Of A Hoax

Along with Roger, Coplan would travel to Walton’s mother, Mary Walton Kellett’s house to inform her of the situation and the witnesses’ account of it. Her response and overall demeanor would strike Coplan as “odd”. Rogers would tell her of her son’s disappearance to which she calmly listened before asking him to repeat the account.   Then, the first question she asked was whether anyone else other than the crew and the police were aware of the situation. Coplan believed it wasn’t a typical response of a mother informed her son is missing. Ultimately, it would simply harden his suspicion of one untruth or another regarding Walton’s apparent disappearance.

However, deeper analysis of Walton’s mother’s general character would suggest this aloof type of response to be in line with her personality and attitude.    She had, for example, raised six children, largely by herself and in difficult circumstances. She was ultimately very “guarded” regarding her feelings in public. As the days went on, though, the stress became all too apparent for all to see.    On the night of the disappearance, she would contact Walton’s brother, Duane. Upon hearing the news, he would travel to Snowflake from his home in Glendale, Arizona.

By the following day, 6th November, with the sunbathing the area in full light, the region was searched once more. This time, many more people were part of the operation, including multiple volunteers from the local community.    However, once again, there was no sign whatsoever of Travis Walton. Police, at least privately, suspected that the “UFO story” had been put in place to cover up an accident, or even a homicide.

The Fred Syvanus Tape

It was only a matter of days before news of the incident leaked to the reporters from a whole range of sensationalist-type tabloid newspapers. As well as UFO investigators with various degrees of genuineness and competence.   One of those UFO investigators hailed from Phoenix, Fred Sylvanus. Whether his intentions were well-intended or not, the interviews he obtained with Michael Rogers and Walton’s brother Duane would go on to be often used by skeptics. It perhaps didn’t help that both men would openly, and maybe correctly, criticize the effort by the police in finding their colleague and brother.

More importantly and, in part, a genuine cause of concern over the years was Rogers’ “admission” that he would no longer be able to fulfill his logging contract.   We will come back to this later as if there is any kind of fraudulent behavior afoot, this could be key.

The other statement would come from Walton’s brother, Duane.   He would reveal that both he and his brother had a long-lasting interest in UFOs. In fact, Duane would even reveal that he had witnessed a UFO himself twelve years previously.   Furthermore, he would offer completely of his own accord, that both he and Travis had made a pact that if either of them was ever to witness a UFO they would “get as close as possible”.   Some reports even claim they would “try to get on board”.

Each of these statements would be used repeatedly against those involved with the case. Before we move on, let’s look a little further at the logging contract.   And, as unlikely as it might have been, why it is, whether coincidentally or not, perhaps the one real chink in the armor of their story.

The Logging Contract

The timber thinning contract that Michael Rogers successfully bid for and won in the spring of 1974 is perhaps of interest.   As per the terms of the deal struck with the US Forest Service, Rogers would be responsible for the thinning operation over 1,277 acres of land in the Apache-Sit greaves forest. Rogers, in part, was successful with his bid due to considerable undercutting of the other companies bidding for the contract.   However, by the summer of 1975, it was becoming increasingly obvious to Rogers that he was simply not going to meet the predetermined deadline to have the work completed.

This would lead him to apply for a deadline extension.   This was granted, but it would mean a monetary fine against what he had agreed to be paid. He would forfeit one dollar per acre for all work carried out after the original deadline.   The new extension was agreed, and Rogers was to have the thinning operation complete by the 10th of November. Once again, however, it quickly became apparent to Rogers that he was going to miss this second, extended deadline. If Rogers applied for another extension, which may have been granted, he would incur further fines.    Furthermore, due to the already missed original target date, the Forest Service wouldn’t pay in full for the work until it was complete.

This was quite a concern for Rogers.    Not only would he not be able to pay his crew, but he also himself would be severely hampered financially.    And with winter just around the corner which would even further hamper work, some believe that Rogers, along with the rest of the crew concocted the abduction claim to have their contract voided and receive payment in full due to circumstances beyond their control stopping them from finishing the work.

Suspicions Of Foul Play

As the days went on following Walton’s disappearance and several unsuccessful searches of the Turkey Springs area where the crew had been working, suspicion began to increasingly return to the crew members.    Due to the amount of time, he had been missing combined with the below freezing temperatures of the first two nights of his disappearance, the feeling among the police began to discreetly change from a search-and-rescue mission to one of recovering the young man’s body.

After the second full day of searching, the police would approach the crew members with an offer for them to take a lie detector test.    They had initially offered to take “any kind” of test in the hours following the disappearance to prove their account was truthful. Polygraph examiner, Cy Gilson, generally respected in his field as being fair and accurate with such readings, would conduct the tests.

All the crew members would pass the tests with no problems whatsoever, aside from Allen Dalis, whose didn’t fail the test, but whose results were inconclusive. It was also known that Dalis didn’t particularly get on with Walton.    His inconclusive result, despite the efforts of the crew members, singled him out as being responsible for what the police were increasingly sure was Walton’s death. Incidentally, just under twenty years later in 1993, Gilson would retest Mike Rogers and Allen Dalis, as well as Travis Walton.    He would use a “state-of-the-art” computer. All of three of the men passed the test.

Back in the winter of 1975, among suspicions of foul play, Walton’s sister, Grant Neff, received a sudden phone call slightly after midnight on the evening of the 10th of November (going into the 11th of November).    On the other end was Travis.

Several suspected Walton of a hoax

The Reappearance

Walton sounded confused, panicked, and disorientated. His sister managed to retrieve information that he was calling from an Exxon Station somewhere nearby.    Grant’s husband and Walton’s brother, Duane, would immediately jump in their vehicle and head towards Heber where they indeed found Walton “crumpled to the floor of the phone booth” at the gas station.

Years later, in the book ‘The Walton Experience’, Walton would recall his first memories of waking up following his five-day disappearance.    He would claim that he “regained consciousness lying on my stomach” with his head on his outstretched arm.    He immediately noticed how cold the air was and was “instantly awake”. It was then he noticed a bright light “on the bottom of a curved, gleaming hull”.    Then, he noticed the “mirrored outline of a silvery disc” hovering somewhere over him.

He would estimate the craft to have been around forty feet in length. It moved silently above him for several moments.    As he followed it moving only his eyes from where he lay he could “see the night sky, the surrounding trees, and the highway center line reflected in the curving mirror of its hull”. Suddenly a “warmth” caressed the exposed skin of his body.    Then the object “shot vertically into the sky”. In an instant, the craft was gone.    Walton would later recall that “the most striking thing about its departure was its quietness”.

After taking Walton to his mother’s house, his brother Duane would take him to a hospital in Phoenix.    And after some initial resistance, all involved would allow APRO (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization) to drive the case.    They would immediately have Walton examined by two different physicians.

Memories From Inside The Craft

According to Walton, the last thing he clearly remembered was being struck by the beam of light as he stood underneath the glowing disc.    The next thing he knew, he was lying on a flat service like a “reclined bed”.    He immediately noticed that the air was damp and “heavy”.    He also immediately felt pain all over his body.    A light shone down on him from above. Each breath was decidedly difficult and painful.

He at first believed he was in a hospital somewhere.    Then, he noticed the three figures stood around him.    Each donned an orange suit, although it was perfectly obvious to Walton that they were not at all human.    He would later state these figures were around five feet high, certainly no taller than that, and with strange bald and enormous heads.    Their eyes were equally large.    He would describe them as “almost brown without much white in them”.    The rest of their facial features were decidedly smaller than their size suggested. What Walton was ultimately describing was three, grey aliens.

With a surge of fear-induced adrenalin running through him, Walton jumped down from the bed and quickly stood.    He began to shout at the three strange creatures, warning them to stay away.    He managed to pick up a “glasslike cylinder” from a shelf as he backed away.    His intention was to smash to object and use it as a weapon.    However, he was unable to break it. Instead, he waved it at the three creatures and continued to shout.    To his amazement, they backed away and left the room.    After waiting for a moment, Walton also left the room.

The High-Backed Chair In The Round Room

He would proceed down a hallway and soon found himself in a round room.    He could see a strange chair with an overly large back to it sitting in the middle of the room. Walton stepped forward, making his way towards the chair. As he moved inside the room, lights began to come on around him.    He cast his eyes around the intriguing and mysterious room, assuring himself he was still the only one inside. Satisfied, he moved forward, sitting in the chair.    Upon doing so, lights came on all around the room reminding Walton of a “planetarium ceiling”.

He would recall that the left-hand arm of the chair had a “single short thick lever” with an “oddly molded handle”.    On the other arm was a lime-green screen, casting out a warm glow. Walton pushed on the lever and the “lights” rotated until he let go of it, now stopping in their new position.    Suddenly realizing he had no real idea what such buttons and levers might do, he got out of the chair. As he did so, the lights above him went out.

Then he heard a noise from behind.    He spun around, witnessing a tall humanoid figure with a glassy helmet.    On its frame was blue coveralls. Walton began to fire questions at the “man”, but he either didn’t hear or ignored him. Instead, he would motion to him that he should follow him. Walton did so, following the tall figure down another hallway.    He carried on down a steep ramp and soon found himself in another large room.    A room like an aircraft hangar.    It was then that he realized the ramp was a walkway out of the disc-shaped craft. He saw two other discs “landed” in the hangar in front of him.

Mothership, Or Terrestrial Base?

Whether Walton was on board a mothership of sorts somewhere in Earth’s orbit or even farther out in space, or whether he was taken to a more terrestrial base somewhere on Earth is unclear.    He was, however, led into another room where he claimed to see three humans, two men and a woman.    Unlike the person who had led him here, these people had no helmets although they too, as Walton could also now see of the helmeted man, had a strange larger appearance to their eyes.

Once more he began to ask questions of the trio.    However, much in the same way as the first humanoid, they dismissed his inquiries.    They instead directed him to another table-like object, motioning that he should sit down.    Before he realized what was happening, the “woman” approached him. In her hands, she had a mask-like device. In another second it was clasped to his face.    A second later, he lost consciousness.

Walton claimed his next memory is of waking up, on his stomach outside the gas station in the freezing cold.    Above him was one of the disc-shaped objects which shot directly upwards at breakneck speed after several seconds. It was then, still confused, that Walton went to the telephone box nearby. In his mind, he believed he had been missing for a few hours. It was only when his brother arrived that he was told he had been missing for a full five days.

A Purposeful “Mental Block!”

There were certainly some interesting details that surfaced in the immediate aftermath of Walton’s return.    Many theories circulated that Walton may have been attacked and drugged. He had, according to the theory, awoken in an unknown hospital.    And confused, would believe his strange surroundings to be that of the inside of a spaceship. While that would perhaps make sense, it wouldn’t explain the sighting of the disc-shaped craft by all the crew, including Walton. Indeed, it was this sighting that would have, if we believe the above theory, influenced Walton’s confused perception.    And besides, if Walton was attacked in such a manner, by whom? And why?    Furthermore, there was no sign of head injury.    Nor were any drugs that may have caused such confusion present in his system.

Another little-known event in the immediate days following Walton’s return was a meeting he and his brother, Duane had with ARPO consultant, James Harder.    To prove his genuineness, and to unlock any other memories of the account, Walton would agree to undergo hypnotic regression.    Harder himself would conduct the session.    What was interesting, though, was that Walton’s “conscious recall and unconscious memory were the same”.    Furthermore, and perhaps even more interesting, on either mental level, Walton could access only the two-hour period following the beam of light hitting him in the chest. Anything beyond that had a feeling of being “off-limits”.

Both Walton and Harder would get the impression that there were indeed memories  to unlock, but that there was a purposeful “mental block” preventing access to them.    Walton would even state that if attempts to retrieve these memories continued “he would die”.

Interesting Details And “Other” Sightings

There were other details that very much supported Walton’s claims.    He sported a full five days’ worth of beard growth, for example. He also appeared significantly malnourished.    What is interesting, however, is that despite this very real physical evidence of a prolonged period of starvation, there is also evidence to suggest that some form of basic nutrition would find its way to Walton.    There wasn’t, for example, elevated levels of electrolytes in the blood, which would normally be the case had Walton literally starved of all nutrition for a prolonged period.

So, with that in mind, whoever or whatever did take Walton from the woodlands of Arizona, and wherever they took him, they were concerned, prepared, and aware enough to administer appropriate levels of fluids and nutrients to prevent any long-term damage to his health.

Perhaps also of interest are several sightings on the 10th of November – several hours before the apparent return of Walton.     Although the location is unclear, the witness would report seeing a “V-formation of orange lights” over her house.    She waited to see if the lights would return. Then, she blacked out.    Her next memory is of sitting a large chair in a strange room with dim lights all around.    She could see several “human figures” walking back and forth through a doorway.    The next thing she knew, she was back in her home.

On the same night, a report came from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota. According to the report, “a bright star-like object…about the size of a car” was moving across the sky. Estimations would suggest an altitude of 1,000 to 2,000 feet high but with no noise whatsoever. The sighting would receive corroboration from three other witnesses. Interestingly, several sightings came from Canada in the early hours of 11th November.

The Movie “Fire In The Sky” – A Great Display Of The Emotional Impact

Several years after the abduction encounter in 1978, Walton would release the book ‘The Walton Experience’ in which he would tell the full story, as much as he could remember of it, of his abduction and the events that unfolded afterward.    The book would eventually result in the movie by Paramount Pictures ‘Fire In The Sky’ in 1993.

As we will examine a little more later, many used already established suspicions and added the monetary gain Walton would have had for the releases as further evidence that the whole event was a hoax.   In defense of Walton, and some of the others such as Rogers and Dalis, the events so well and widely scrutinized, it would be extremely difficult to go back to any resemblance of a normal life.    Add to that the emotional state of Walton’s mindset following the incident, even if he had been able to just step back into his “old life”, his fragile state of mind required he very much stay out of the limelight.    So, any form of monetary compensation offered would have surely been a welcome relief.

The film was a moderate success and generally met with good reviews.    Some of the scenes inside the craft were overblown.    And not at all in sympathy with Walton’s account. They did, though, “borrow” details from a  medley of other similar abduction accounts.    And so still present a realistic experience.    What the film really does achieve greatly is relate how such an incident impacts on those involved both emotionally and mentally.    Even the crew’s decision to report the incident would come after indecision and second-guessing.

You can check out the short video below where Walton talks a little of the “artistic decisions” of the film.

Further Points Of Interest

We will look at the renowned UFO skeptic, Philip Klass, and his perception of the case shortly.    However, one of the main areas of concern for those looking to prove a hoax was Walton’s apparent previous interest in UFOs and aliens. In fact, one person who knew the family claimed that Walton was a “UFO freak” and had been for years. Another stated that the entire (Walton) family had made claims of seeing UFOs over the years.

This is a particularly interesting point.    Many alien abductees discover that their abductions been a recurring process for many years.    Often going back to their youths.    Many also involve other family members such as siblings or parents.    And what’s more, these abductions, in some cases, have gone on through generations going back decades. With that in mind, then, and if we accept Walton’s account as true, genuine, and accurate, it is perhaps no surprise that Walton’s mother and siblings have also had similar accounts to tell of.    Even should none of them remember an abduction, it is at least possible if they are seeing UFOs combined with what we know of Walton’s account, that they too have had similar more close-up encounters.

Before we examine some of the claims of a hoax, check out the short video below. It features Walton, many years after the incident returning to the scene of the abduction. Interestingly, the area has experienced an accelerated rate of growth in the trees in the immediate vicinity of the area.    Experts have claimed this accelerated growth is simply a natural occurrence and is not at all proof of a strange incident being the conduit for such a change in growth acceleration. However, trees cut down immediately prior to the incident, suggest otherwise.

The Bias And Manipulative Narrative Of Philip Klass?

One of the main skeptics of the incident at the time was Philip Klass.    However, Klass’ bias and manipulative style in using out-of-context part quotes and bending them to his narrative are very much on show here. A lot of this would come from comments on the Fred Sylvanus tape.

For example, Klass would ultimately paint a picture of a hoax, with Rogers and Walton at the top.    Merely keeping the rest of the crew in line with promises of monetary gain and outright threats of violence. He would question that Rogers at no time showed “the slightest concern over whether Travis might have been injured or killed”.    However, when listening to the hour-long interview in full, this isn’t the case.    The interview occurred while Rogers and Dalis were physically searching for Walton. Several comments about the nature and state of Walton’s injury are clear. Even that at one stage that several of the crew, including himself, started crying due to the bizarre events.

Another example is a conversation Klass puts across as Rogers threatening one his crew, Steve Pierce, who had apparently been offered $10,000 to sign and stand by a denial of the events. Apparently, he was thinking of doing this to which, according to Klass, Rogers said “Then you’ll spend the money alone and you’ll be bruised”.

However, the full quote from Rogers is entirely different. It was, “Steve told me and Travis that he had been offered $10,000 just to sign a denial. He said he was thinking about taking it. We asked him. ‘    Even though you know it happened, would you deny it just for the money?’    He said maybe he would. He was thinking about it.   So, I told him ‘Then you’ll spend the money alone, and you’ll be bruised”.

The “Forest Contract Theory” And Attacks On Trivial Issues

While the theory that the alien abduction of Travis Walton was really a hoax to release Rogers from his logging contract is sound, in theory, it was one that Klass pushed in his overzealous way.    According to him, Forest Service Contracting Officer Maurice Marchbanks, confirmed that such an incident, if it were true, would be an “act of God” and would free Rogers of his contract and result in him receiving all monies owed.

However, Klass didn’t feel the need to also relay March bank’s opinion that such a hoax was improbable.    He would state that “there was no way such an alleged hoax could benefit Rogers”.    Others involved with the Forest Service agreed that he would have nothing to gain from such a hoax.    Not least to his reputation.

Klass also drew overzealous attention to the fact that Walton, through his own admission, had smoked marijuana “a few times” in his youth.    Although attitudes to such a minor drug are much more liberal and sensible today, at the time in the mid-1970s, many in society simply wouldn’t separate smoking a joint to sticking needles in one’s arms.    Klass was aware of this also and used the matter-of-fact admission to paint Walton as a “drug-user”.

Klass also reported that Walton had previously served time in jail.    This isn’t true.    Several years previously, he and Rogers’ younger brother altered payroll checks and declared guilty of check fraud.    The pair would complete two years’ probation.    Despite the incident being his only serious legal trouble, Walton has stated his “embarrassment” at it.

The “Failed” Lie Detector Test

Then, there is the failed lie-detector test of Travis Walton, the very first lie-detector test following his reappearance.    Klass alleges that this test not only proves Walton to be a fraud but that APRO actively suppressed it. In truth, this wasn’t quite the case.    A lie detector test had indeed taken place.    On 15th November, only five days after Walton reappeared in Heber.

The National Enquirer newspaper would essentially bankroll the APRO investigation into the Walton case.    They, in turn, were looking for exclusive rights to their findings.    The first test was administered by John McCarthy.    A man with two decades of experience and very much respected.    At least according to Klass. However, while he declared that his opinion was “gross deception” APRO argued the test to be inconclusive.    This, due to the still emotional state of Walton.    Perhaps most intriguing, however, was that when McCarthy’s test records were examined by Dr. David Raskin.    Many see Raskin to be the best in his field.    He would state McCarthy’s technique was “unacceptable”.    Furthermore, his equipment and use of it was “thirty years out of date”.

Just as an example, McCarthy appeared aggressive in his questioning.    At one point asking if he (Walton) had “colluded” to manufacture a hoax.    Walton replied he didn’t know what the word meant.    McCarthy would fire back that collusion was “planning or conspiring”. Just like he had “colluded to steal and forge payroll checks”.

Whether the decision to keep this first test “quiet” was correct or ultimately more damaging, is open to debate.    It does appear, however, that McCarthy was biased and unable to conduct such a test.    Not least due to the bizarre nature of the events of Walton’s mentally fragile state at the time.

A Genuine Close Contact Encounter?

On balance, it is likely that the abduction of Travis Walton is a genuine account of close extraterrestrial contact extraterrestrial.    There are, however, some intriguing aspects to examine.

For example, where did Walton go once inside the disc-shaped craft?    Did he leave the planet and go somewhere into the near or far reaches of space?    Or was his journey more terrestrial? Was he, in fact, taken to one of the many alleged secret bases?    One deep underground somewhere in a remote location on Earth?    And if so, what does that tell us of those behind such bases?    Were the “humans” that Walton witnessed humans?    Or were they humanoid and still of an extraterrestrial nature?    And if they were human, does that suggest some authenticity to the claims of an alien-human pact?    One that proceeds with dark, clandestine operations on the rest of the planet’s populace?

Whatever the truth Walton would ultimately return to normal life.    Marrying Rogers’ younger sister, Dana, and eventually finding work at a lumber mill in Snowflake.    He occasionally appears on television specials or at UFO conventions.    One of the most memorable was perhaps in 1993 following the release of the ‘Fire In The Sky’ movie.    Both Walton and Rogers would appear on Larry King Live along with the Klass.     During the interview, Klass would lose his temper and announce Walton to be a “goddamned liar”.    Many still consider Klass a genuine skeptic and debunker of such cases.    Many others, though, including some skeptics, suspect him spreading disinformation.

Seven People, Over Forty Years, And Numerous Lie-Detector Tests?

The details offered by Walton at the time were also quite unique.    Certainly, from much of what was in the public arena of the era.    We must remember; this was before the Internet and the sharing of information among enthusiasts.    Many would even draw attention to a TV-movie (The UFO Incident) based on the abduction of the Betty and Barny Hill, perhaps the first widely known abduction case that had aired in the weeks leading up to the alleged abduction of Walton.

Some charge that this movie, in part, gave Walton and Rogers, the core of their idea to perpetuate the hoax. If this were the case, however, it would perhaps make sense that Walton would have offered details more in line to that of the Hill incident.    He didn’t, though.    The details offered of both the abduction and the particulars of the craft were completely different.    They would also be ones that would surface in other reports over the years. Furthermore, Walton could only remember two hours of the incident and not any other memories of the five days he was missing.     Again, this apparent simplicity suggests an authentic account.

Is the location of importance?    After all, the remote and dense forest regions of Arizona and the surrounding states are mysterious.    Rife with reports not only of UFO sightings but strange activity.    Much of which dates back hundreds of years.

The video below is one of many interview and lectures available by Walton.    Make of it, and his account, what you will.    Although first, ask yourselves, would a hoax, one that stretches in several directions, and under the scrutiny of multiple lie-detector tests truly stand up for over four decades?

Disclaimer

The stories, accounts, and discussion in this article are not always based on proven facts and may go against currently accepted science and common beliefs.  The details included in the article are based on the reports and accounts available to us as provided by witnesses and documentation.

By publishing these accounts, Steve Erdmann does not take responsibility for the integrity of them.  You should read this article with an open mind and conclude yourself.

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The World behind the Reality!

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“They have advanced technologies. They have taken over various programs—particularly black programs within our government, and probably even the Russian government, and the Chinese.” 

A whistle-blower, William John Pawelec..

http://www.digitaldingus.com/reviews/hd/0040/index.php

THE HIDDEN ALTERNATE GOVERNMENT

By:

Steve Erdmann

Copyright, C, Steve Erdmann and Alternate Perception Magazine

This article is reprinted from the April 2018 issue 241 of Alternate Perception Magazine.
 http://www.apmagazine.info/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1123&Itemid=194.

“Brent Raynes has been investigating and researching UFOs since 1967. He is the author of Visitors from Hidden Realms and the editor of Alternate Perceptions magazine. Brent has traveled extensively across the US and into Canada interviewing numerous witnesses and researchers. He has taken a comprehensive global and historical perspective on the Ufological landscape. He has also participated in Native American rituals and ceremonies, gaining valuable insights and information from his interactions with these wisdom keepers. Brent is able to make revealing comparisons between the interrelated experiences and disciplines of parapsychology, shamanism, Jungian archetypes, and ufology.”

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/raynes-brent/6818

It is printed here with permission and is quotable for journalists and reviewers in short parts along with credits.

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“You can’t keep a secret forever,” no matter how long-sought to hide the facts, in any darkened corridor that the truth travels, or what orifice it hibernates beneath, like sweating sap on a tree, the truth will, sometimes slowly but inevitably, ooze out into the fresh air of the day. Steven M. Greer and his 800-plus ‘whistle-blowers,’ his Project Disclosure, may just be some of that expedient: 

“Essentially, the covert management of this matter operates as part super-secret organized crime operation. It is more like a secret mafia than a government entity…extra-constitutional, both in the U.S and the U.K, as well as other countries…a criminal enterprise and a conspiracy of the first order…assassination, murder, kidnapping, theft of technologies…spinoff technologies based on the study of ET objects…”

A.H, whistle-blower, Unacknowledged, pp. 55-56.

(Unacknowledged, Steven M. Greer, M.D., A&M Publishing, L.L.C, wwwAMPpublishing.com, West Palmer Beach, Florida 33411, 2017, 326 pages, $25.95.)

PART I
Vectoring UFOs

Doctor Steven M. Greer, a physician by profession, and UFO hunter by sideline, has created the Orion Project, the Disclosure Project, and the Center for the Study of extra-terrestrial Intelligence (CSETI), whose purpose was to not only start the disclosure of the reality of terrestrials visiting the planet, but the gathering of witnesses that were government personnel who held high security clearances and were willing to become whistle-blowers, and finally help end the secrecy surrounding UFOs, and ending with the eventual human contact with extraterrestrials.   

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CSETI

https://paranormalforum.net/threads/10-14-2015-dr-steven-greer.5956/

The latter was attempted in the February of 1992 near Pensacola, Florida were groups of witnesses, two Air Force pilots, “vectored” in four ET crafts, filmed them, and ended with Army Intelligence and a member of MAJIC Black Operations entering the picture.

“You have to understand,” says Greer, “this was back in 1992-93 when I actually thought we had a functional constitutional government. Since then, I’ve learned it’s all window dressing, that there’s a parallel government process that operates completely independent of the people we elect.”

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“A Parallel Government Process”

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Through pure determination, Greer has accumulated over 800 whistle-blowers, some of them already have testified to Congress, all utilizing a legally phrased “unless otherwise directed” (UNOD) letter allowing them to speak about “illegal” evidence and activities that were part of “Unacknowledged Special Access Projects.”   Unfortunately, so many had become victims to TWEP—“Termination with Extreme Prejudice.”

THE BLACK PROJECTS BEYOND COMPREHENSION

One such victim of TWEP was the former CIA director William Colby, also a participant in Majestic, who was diverted from working with Greer and Colby’s transfer of $50 million in funding.

Colby was found floating down the Potomac River.

Colby’s best friend and Colby’s widow both confirmed that “it was a hit.”  Greer and some of his friends contracted cancer at that precise time as well.

“Let me be clear,” says Greer, “the entity which controls the UFO matter and the related technologies have more power than any simple government in the world or any single identified world leader. This cabal is a hybrid, quasi-government, quasi-privatized operation which is international and functions outside of the purview outside of the loop.” (pp. 55-56)

These “Black Controls” far surpassed rank or privilege by which no CIA director, U.S president, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, U.N Secretary General, or any other position would have entrance to “these Unacknowledged Special Accessed Projects…part of a privileged crime operation in part, like a secret Mafia rather than a government entity.”

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“Like a  Secret Mafia.”

http://worldwartwo.filminspector.com/2017/11/color-photos-of-world-war-2-part-2.html.

Greer says all these USAPS are outgrowths of what President Dwight Eisenhower referred to in his 1961 speech as the Military-Industrial-Complex, as a large “web” of clandestine Black Operations that can be found intertwined in such organizations as Majestic 12, SECOR, PI-40, MAJIC, Masons, Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission, Central Intelligence Agency, National Security Agency, DARPA, National Reconnaissance Office, and several others that the public had no idea that they exist as Unacknowledged Special Access Projects.

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Majestic or MJ-12 goes back to 1947 or 1956, depending what version is told about its creation, and is often tied into tales of crashed and retrieved extraterrestrial spacecraft.

Greer tells us that trillions of dollars have been spent on these “unauthorized, unconstitutional” projects, including the charade of a phony multi-billion-dollar space program using normal rocket propulsion, while the Hidden Cabal actually possessed much greater, secret technologies.

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“I believe there are at least four power groups in the world,” said whistle-blower William John Pawelec. “They have advanced technologies. They have taken over various programs—particularly black programs within our government, and probably even the Russian government, and the Chinese. Politics to them, as we know it, is not the same. They have agendas totally unlike what our government (has)…unbelievably, they are able to track everything going on around them at the minutiae level.”

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William John Pawelec

Pawelec worked in the security installation industry and discovered a hidden plan for the Cabal to manufacture and use small microchip implants for mass operation.  

Greer’s book is predicated on a cadre of whistle-blowers that were often of high rank and spoke from a list of classified credentials that go beyond the normal Top Secret (Cosmic top secret clearance, top-secret Special Compartmented Intelligence (SCI), Zebra, Confidential Secret, Secret Compartmented Intelligence, Zebra, Confidential Secret, Secret Clearance, Yankee Black, Yankee White, NRO Central Security memorandum, Sci-TK, proprietary privilege, etc.), and according to whistle-blower Sergeant Clifford Stone, there were “eleven” classifications about the nominal Top Secret, Dan Morris alludes to 38 levels above (p. 69).

The whistle-blowers spoke from a plethora of very Black, much hidden organizations that housed forbidden access or “Unacknowledged Special Access Projects” (USAPs) that could be found under multiple organizations such as the Alien Contact Intelligence Organization (ACIO), Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI), Military Intelligence divisions, National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), on down through the regular alphabet groups such as CIA, DIA, DARPA, and so on.

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“Very Black, Much Hidden Organizations.”

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Geer denotes that USAP programs have engulfed $80 to $100 billion, possibly trillions of dollars towards the reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial vehicles (ARVs), and that our present-day popular space program “has been a primitive and unnecessary experiment since much more advanced technologies and propulsion systems were in existence before we ever went to the moon” (p. 57).

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Wernher von Braun (Center) – A Father of the Secret Space Program 

http://www.armaghplanet.com/blog/nazis-in-space.html.

The Black Operations are prepared to do anything to maintain the secrecy, says Greer, with the UFO-ET matter being at the top of the list. ‘Plausible deniability’ is used at many levels, and ‘specialization and compartmentalization’ allow “a number of operations to exist without those involved even knowing that their task is related to the UFO/ET subject.” (p. 76)

Penalties for violating secrecy are extraordinary, and Greer hypothesizes that at least ten thousand people have received in excess of $10-million in bribes. Even more deadly, TWEP orders (Terminate With Extreme Prejudice) have also been carried out, says Greer, against people who “break the code of silence.”

PART II
In a Span of a Radar Sweep.

The need for such diabolical secrecy and containment can be gleaned in the typical UFO cases that Greer presents throughout his book.

Michael Smith was a sergeant in the Air Force from 1967 to 1973 and was an aircraft control and warning operator. In early 1970, his crew was watching a UFO on the radar as the UFO hovered at 80,000 feet. In the span of one radar sweep, the object was two hundred miles away and stationary for ten minutes, then it repeated the small aerial routine two more times.

Smith was told to report it to NORAD but not to write anything down – at all – it would be classified on a Need to Know Only.

On another occasion, NORAD called Smith one night to give him a heads-up that a UFO was coming up the California coastline. Smith queried NORAD as to what he should do, they replied, “Nothing, don’t write it down, this is just a heads-up.”

In late 1972, Smith was stationed at the 753rd Radar Squadron at Sault Ste. Marie, Michigan, Smith received calls that the police officers were chasing UFOs in the area, and he checked the radar and confirmed they were there. He contacted NORAD who said they would divert two B-52s going to Kincheloe Air Force Base to keep the aircraft away from the UFOs.

“That night I answered many calls from the police department, sheriff’s department, and stuff,” said Smith, “and my standard response was there was nothing on radar.” (p. 125)   

Major George A. Filer III was an Air Force intelligence officer as well as a navigator in various aircraft, such as tanker transport.

Filer saw his first UFO in 1962 when he flew tankers over London, England.  London Control requested an “intercept” of a UFO. London Control “vectored” the tankers to the center of England, and soon Filer was traveling at four-hundred miles an hour as he attempted a diver-intercept of the object. He could see it on the radar as a very large return, similar in size to a very large bridge—in size and intensity: “A very large return.” When the tankers honed-in on the object within a mile, “it took off into space—several thousand miles per hour, almost directly up,” said Filer. “Frankly, at least to my knowledge, we had nothing like that capability.”  

Filer. said the object appeared to be disc-type, somewhat flat, lights at the top and bottom, domed, and radar denoted it was probably five hundred yards in size. The crew wrote the sighting in the navigator’s log.

“I mean, it was a huge thing,” said Filer (pp.113-114).

UFO CASES OF THE 1st to 5th KINDS

The book is replete with all ranks (to use the late scientist J. Allen Hynek’s UFO graduations) from mere sightings to close contact. The reader will have to do his own expedition of Greer’s book to realize all the facets that Greer writes about.

Sergeant Clifford Stone of the U.S Army worked in the retrieval of downed UFOs, a part of Operation Blue Fly and Project Moon Dust, and he had access to Black Ops bases and secret access projects, having attended the Nuclear-Biological-and-Chemical-School at Fort McCullen, Alabama, which often included fabrication and fake news releases and use of other deselection programs.

Although recoveries of downed ET craft are rare, said Stone, they do take place. One such incident took place in 1969 in Indian Tower Gap, North Carolina. Stone said his Unit, the 69th Civil Affairs Group, was doing a field training exercise, and Stone was the NBC Non-Commission Office in charge.

Stone and his crew were ordered to assist in the recovery of a downed UFO, which was discovered to be a wedge-shaped craft. The team set-up floodlights in places around the object; they were not disturbed by “curiosity seekers.”   Stone was ordered to get close to the object to take readings with the APD 27. At that point, Stone noted the occupants to appear to be of non-earthly origin.

Stone said that there were as many as eleven security classifications, which eventually reduced down to confidential, Secret and Top Secret…anything above those are called Special Access Programs. The National Reconnaissance Office, as well as the National Security Agency, was kept secret, for “many, many years.” 

“…we throw out the bits and pieces of the evidence that do not meet our paradigm,” said Stone. “So it is a self-keeping secret. You can conceal it in plain sight…We have got to get the documentation as it is ultimately destroyed.”  (p. 32)

Richard Doty was a Special Agent for Counterintelligence for the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) for UFO/Extraterrestrial questions that came to Kirkland Air Force Base in New Mexico and also at Nellis Air Force Base.

Doty became involved in close encounter cases of a man who lived in a trailer outside of Dugway Proving Grounds. This man had worked as a photographer in the Army and worked for the Dugway Proving Grounds, but surprisingly had taken several photos of UFOs and strange creatures, the discovery of which made its way to the AFOSI and Doty in late 1984 and early 1985. 

“They land out here,” he told investigators, relating episodes going back to 1968 when creatures came out of a craft and he photographed them. They spoke telepathically. These episodes said the claimant, lasted from the late 1960s to about 1976, and the creatures gave him star-shaped and bronze model-statues.

Mr. James Sodawski (possibly, Sadoski, Doty couldn’t recall the exact spelling) said that he was dying and he wanted to rid himself of all the UFO souvenirs. Rather quizzically, trucks from the NSA and CIA came to the man’s trailer and began special packaging of the two dozen or so items.

One object was a bronze heart with calligraphy; another was like a “wreath” with symbols, having appendages for a stand. The claimant even took photos, it seemed, of the inside of the craft, showing instrument panels and a huge screen showing star charts, possibly navigation schematics. The daytime photos Jim took of the UFOs were very clear (pp. 218-219).

A QUIZZICAL ALLIANCE

Greer said that there are two categories of vehicles: ETVs or Extraterrestrial Vehicles, and the others are ARV or Alien Reproduction Vehicles which are manmade vehicles back-engineered from crashed ET crafts. “We have, however,” says Greer, “thousands of sightings and interactions with extraterrestrial vehicles and their occupants. (p. 239) 

The irony and conundrum are that our billion-dollar-publicly-known space program was a ‘mask’ hiding a world of a hyper-technology of an alternate-society-cabal already in contact with ETs.

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“Was a Mask.”

http://ricksrealreel.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-Manchurian-candidate-1962.html.

“The problem over the last forty-plus years is that there have been two space programs: NASA, which has been forced to use antiquated 1940s rocket technology… (And) the ‘real’ space program – a secret black ops-funded venture using high-voltage anti-gravitics…” (p. 200).

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A Secret Black-ops Venture Hidden About the Globe

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“Space-based weapons are already in place___ part of a secret-parallel space program that has been operating since the 1960s.  ARVs are built and ready to go,” says Greer. “Space-holographic-deception technologies are in place, tested and ready to fire. And the mainstream media is a pawn now taking dictation from the right-hand of the king.”  (pp. 274-275)  

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I’ll be Watching You!

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Greer’s Greatest UFO Query

By:

Steve Erdmann

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Every Breath You Take

The Police
Every breath you take
Every move you make
Every bond you break
Every step you take
I’ll be watching you
Every single day
Every word you say
Every game you play
Every night you stay
I’ll be watching you
Oh can’t you see
You belong to me
My poor heart aches
With every step you take
Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I’ll be watching you
Since you’ve gone I been lost without a trace
I dream at night I can only see your face
I look around but it’s you I can’t replace
I feel so cold and I long for your embrace
I keep crying baby, baby, please
Oh can’t you see
You belong to me
My poor heart aches
With every step you take
Every move you make
Every vow you break
Every smile you fake
Every claim you stake
I’ll be watching you
Ever.

“Every Breath You Take” is a song by English rock band The Police from their 1983 album Synchronicity. Written by Sting, the single was the biggest US and UK hit of 1983, topping the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart for eight weeks (the band’s only number-one hit on that chart), and the UK Singles Chart for four weeks. It also topped the Billboard Top Tracks chart for nine weeks…The song ranked number 84 on the Rolling Stone list of the 500 Greatest Songs of All Time and is included in The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s 500 Songs that Shaped Rock and Roll.  It also ranked number 25 on Billboard‘s Hot 100 All-Time Top Songs.  In 2015, the song was voted by the British public as the nation’s favorite 1980s number one in a poll for ITV.   Original sound recording made by A&M Records Ltd, © 1983 A&M Records Ltd, ℗ 1983 A&M Records Ltd. Made in England.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Every_Breath_You_Take.
The album’s title was inspired by Arthur Koestler‘s The Roots of CoincidenceSting was an avid reader of Koestler, and also named Ghost in the Machine after one of his works.

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Every Breath You Take
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“We have given them names, but they have no relevance to what they call themselves. We simply call hem The Four Horsemen. These Horsemen work together at times, and they work against each other at times.  It is an on-going battle between them at a low level as to who is going to be top dog in the world. The one commonality to all four appears to be an absolute desire for control – of everything and everyone, and each of them has their own philosophy – the core root philosophy which guides them, supposedly, and their actions…They have their own unique flavor. But these people had agenda’s that were unlike any agendas you would have ever run into if you’re in the mainstream government.”

William John Pawelec, Unacknowledged, pp. 95, 96, 97. 

Steven M. Greer has spent many years investigating the various aspects of the “flying saucer” phenomena and has made inroads into alleged “whistle-blowers,” sensational aspects of UFOs, and those evil crevices where men in black suits and dangerous threats apparently exist and conjugate.

Amongst the menagerie of Orwellian intrigue, spies, secret projects, and government corruption, Greer treks through a graveyard of buried testimony and wearisome challenges to our present-day society.  Much of it threatens our sanity and social equilibrium.

(Unacknowledged, Steven M. Greer, M.D., A& M Publishing, L.L.C., www.AMPpublishing.com, West Palm Beach, Florida, 33411, 2017, 326 pages. $25.95.)

Greer develops vistas for readers, talking about more than 800 government, military and corporate witnesses and whistle-blowers he has interviewed, and also discloses the almost $100 billion spent from taxpayer monies in Unacknowledged Special Access Projects (USAPS), General Jimmy Doolittle’s talk of ‘interplanetary war,” the super-secret National Reconnaissance Organization (NRO), cosmic top secret clearance, the Alien Contact Intelligence Organization (ACIO), and the many references to crash and retrieved alien spacecraft.

Because the book covers a plethora of topics from spectacular UFO sightings to observations of “moon bases,” and all the heavy governmental secrecy sandwiched in between, it might be best to handle the topics under rough headlines trying to encapsulate those as typical examples.

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PART I

Typical Phenomenal UFO Cases

One ‘typical’ UFO case is cited by Don Phillips, U.S Air Force and contractor at Lockwood Skunkworks and the CIA. 

A sighting near Angel’s Peak at Nellis Air Force Base spoke of a “real solid object” seen on radar and which circled miles in seconds. Six to seven of these targets were tracked traveling 3,800 to 4,200 miles per hour, stopping on a dime, and eventually disappearing.  The operators were told neither to ask questions nor to deluge any information (pp. 36-37).

Graham Bethune was a Navy commander pilot with a top-secret clearance, also a VIP Plan Commander who flew high-ranking officers and personnel from Washington, D.C.

Bethune knew of several 1950 UFO sightings by the Air Transport Squadron near Keflavik, Iceland and also Argentina, Newfoundland, which demonstrated the erratic behavior.  A. L. Jones, plane commander, witnessed the UFO, a craft with a dome, that rushed from a mile away to about 10,000-feet from them, before disappearing. The Air Force interrogated the witnesses and classified the UFO “a good report.”   

Bethune also told about a Washington, D.C UFO. The object changed colors from yellow to orange and then to a pulsating red. The object appeared to be about 350-feet large and traveled anywhere from 1,000 to 2,000 miles an hour.  Radar said 1,800 miles per hour, covering 15 miles in a second or two.   It was reported that canine Bird Dogs acted up and that directional gyros also acted up when the UFO was near.  Colonel Watson of the Wright-Patterson AFB said the radar reports disappeared (pp.38-41).

John Callahan, former Division Chief of the Accidents and Investigations Branch of the FAA in Washington, D.C., told of a UFO at 35,000-feet that chased a 747 aircraft across the Alaskan skies for about thirty minutes. Radar detected it. At eleven o’clock position, a pilot saw it as a huge ball with lights running around it. The object, which was four times the size of the 747, moved erratically.

The matter ended up with the secretive Scientific Study Group, with the CIA threatened to silence Callahan.  Callahan held back some records in defiance.  The pilot was forced to take a desk job and was often humiliated about his UFO sighting (pp. 108-113).

Callahan was aware of another disc-type craft in the Briarwood Lake near Medford, New Jersey: lights at the top and bottom, and a dome on top, about five-hundred-yards across, the UFO  was seen coming from the lake, water was seen rushing off the object.  The UFO was recorded in the navigator’s log.

SHOT UFO OCCUPANT

Major George A. Filer, III, worked as the Deputy Director of Intelligence for the 21st Air Force and has flown over three hundred aircraft. Filer talked about a January 18, 1978, UFO sighting on the McGuire Air Force Base. The UFO appeared through the night, showing red light as it hovered over the runway, and then, apparently having crashed and/or landed at Fort Dix, an occupant became shot and killed while trying to escape. AC-141 was called to pick up the occupant remains.  Filer wasn’t allowed to see the photos about the incident, while he was, indeed, there while they were being passed around to those being debriefed. Six to eight people eventually “guarded” the body; they were dislocated from each other so that their associations couldn’t be established.

Robert Jacobs, former Lieutenant in the U.S Air Force, as well as a respected professor at a University, was in charge of optical instrumentation in the 1369th Photo Squadron at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California where he was supervising photographic instrumentation during ballistic missile tests.

In 1964, he said, there was tracking of a “dummy nuke” test using a M45 racking mount with a 180-inch lens, when suddenly a circular-shaped object (“like two saucers cupped together with a ping-pong ball on top”) flew into a frame showing the object shooting “beams of light” at the missile’s warhead. Both, the missile and the object were flying at “several thousand miles an hour.”

Jacobs said that Major Florence J. Mansmann at the First Strategic Aerospace Division headquarters ordered him to ‘complete silence,’ warning him of dire consequences if he ever spoke about the incident. “I was never to speak of this again,” said Jacobs, “as far as I was concerned, this never happened.”   Jacobs explained that strange “guys” in civilian clothes came and spooled off part of the film with the UFO on it and confiscated that section. 

Jacobs revealed that he was harassed at work, and received strange phone calls day and night; one caller said to him: “You are going down, mother fucker!”  Once, Jacobs found skyrockets in his box.  These harassments continued on till about 1982 (pp. 183-186).  

Merle Shane McDow was in the U.S Navy Atlantic Command in May 1981 and had a Top-Secret Special Compartmented Intelligence (SCI) clearance, and he carried a Zebra Stripe Badge.  During May of 1981, McDow was aboard the U.S. American, and it was his job to make sure any incoming and outgoing audio/video information that came into the Command Center was recorded and officially logged. 

A UFO had come into their airspace, setting off a Condition Zebra, and only those with a Zebra Access Badge could remain in the Command Facility.  Admiral Harry Trane was alerted to the Command Center, and it was quickly verified that the UFO was not the Soviets.  Trane sent out two planes to investigate the UFO; futile chases of the UFO began up and down the seaboard. Planes were summoned as far north as Greenland.  McDow could hear pilot-conversations. And the UFO appeared on the radar for almost an hour. The UFO demonstrated very erratic flight patterns “up and down the coasts,” as if playing tag.  The K11-11 spy satellite could only get an early glimpse.

The Admiral’s frustration was centered on the fact that “this thing” had complete and total control, and the witnesses were frightened and upset. Trane was “scrambling” planes left and right along the entire seaboard “to cut this thing off.”  Eventually, the UFO left the atmosphere into space.

The object traveled “thousands of miles in a blink of an eye,” and had complete control of the situation.  McDow was “debriefed” afterward and he was told in no uncertain terms to never speak about it again.  “It didn’t happen,” two guys in suits told him (pp. 191-196).

PART II

Close Encounters of the 3rd and 4th Kinds

While there were several government ‘whistle-blowers” in the topic of meeting the occupants of UFOs, I will trace only some typical informants that Greer talks about.

Richard Doty, a Special Agent for counterintelligence in the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI), is quoted often throughout Greer’s book. Doty, unfortunately, has been called into question by suspicious UFO researchers who feel Doty has used disinformation, but the strong evidence is not available, and Doty’s rank leaves that open to question.

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Doty spoke of various UFO crashes and retrieval in Corona, New Mexico, Horse Mesa west of Magdalena, New Mexico, and similar crashes ranging from June 1947 to 1949 where alien bodies were put into “deep freeze” at Wright-Patterson Air Force field in Dayton, Ohio.

The entities were usually about four-foot tall, no ears, nude-body-looking-type suites, no thumbs, and four fingers with suction devices on tips.  The entities appeared to have a “head apparatus.” The entities also appeared to have several stomachs for different functions. Doty said there were eleven different lobes in their brains.  A live, captured “creature” went to various military bases, including Fort Detrick, Huntsville Redstone Arsenal, and others. 

W.H is a whistle-blower identified as a Tech Sergeant that served in the U.S Air Force from 1963 through 1977. He said that he had the opportunity to view a retrieved craft at Dayton, Ohio in the “Blue Hanger” where several such alien craft were housed.   Debriefing officials informed him that over a hundred alien craft retrievals occurred in New Mexico, four corners area, because of American “radar” had caused them to crash. 

The alien crafts were usually saucer-shaped, aluminum in color, and seamless. Later, W.H was driven to a box canyon in a contingency of high-ranking naval officers and civilian engineers and scientists (Project Mercury) to witness a similar alien craft with two alien beings.

The “Graylings” had large eyes, slim mouth, long slim arms and hands, slim bodies, and were wearing one-piece flight suits. W.H said that It was a two-hour meeting and encounter. A very similar convention was held in Hawaii at Kauai, called Project X.   A CIA friend of W.H, Wesley Bond, had extensive files concerning all related UFO activity, and Bond said he was ready to disclose his files: he was subsequently murdered and his files disappeared.

One of the most controversial, and increasingly criticized ‘whistle-blower’ is Bentwater’s security officer Larry Warren, who claimed to be another witness and participant to the famous Rendlesham-Bentwaters ‘contactee’ case of December 1980 where a host of trained military observers encountered a series of acrobatic UFOs, with one landed, being observed, handled and having left physical traces before taking off. Warren claimed to have been one witness who has a complex story of participation, harassment, and conflict. At one point, Warren claimed to have seen three child-size people cocooned in the light. These were witnessed by others. Greer quotes Warren at length (pp. 131-145). 

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Marine Lance Corporal John Weygandt was a U.S Marine security guard of a second marine air wing 28th Marine Air Control Group, Second air defense battalion troop of North Carolina that had been stationed in Peru. 

Sergeants Allen and Atkins came alerting the crew that some unknown aircraft had crashed and that they needed to investigate. A patrol headed to the site about 6:30 a.m. and upon arriving discovered a huge ship had created a gash in the land.  The area was burnt as if by laser-energy, and the object was buried in the side of a cliff. The craft was oozing a greenish-purple “syrup-like liquid,” as if alive and changing color in shades. 

A light revolved on the craft, said Weygandt, and he could hear a deep, bass hum. Eventually, everything cut off and stopped.  He could see what happened to be “vents” or “gills” on the back. Weygandt discovered that the “syrup-like” substance could eat his clothes as if some form of “acid.” The object appeared to be twenty meters in length, teardrop-shaped and looked very aerodynamic.

Weygandt had the distinct impression that an occupant was trying to contact him by telepathy.

Surprised, Weyandt and the sergeants were arrested, cursed and harassed by Department of Energy people, as well as by “men in black Cammie’s” with no name tags.  Older men appeared wearing containment suites.

Weygandt was handcuffed, his legs fastened, and he was placed in a 47 Chinook helicopter–then taken to be debriefed and harassed for two days. (Greer does not disclose dates, pp.157-160).

Some of the cases Greer discusses, for all intent and purposes, concerning hidden alien and government operations on the Moon as well as the “doctoring” of photos related to this. Greer tells about Donna Harre who worked in the NASA and contracted to Philco Ford from 1970-1971. She worked in Building 8, under a high secret clearance, where she inspected photographic mosaic panels of satellite aerial shots.

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Occasionally, Hare said, they would come across curious sharp lines and round shadows alluding to UFOs that she was told to airbrush them out of the photograph. Hare said that people involved in the scrubbing or deletion of UFO photos or similar photos of the moon shots always felt threatened. Lunar astronauts, likewise, have been involved in knowing ET’s had landed on the Moon as part of Operation Santa Claus.  People and evidence have disappeared, Hare said. “One particular man I know of, who just disappeared off the face of the Earth.”

PART III

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The Government Deep State and the Military-Industrial-Corporate-Complex-Matrix (MICCM)

A large part of Greer’s work and the book is devoted to actual and suspected government Deep State control and descriptions of what President Eisenhower called the Military-Industrial-Complex. Greer announces over 800 government, military and corporate “whistle-blowers” in his Project Disclosure that reveals the reality of up to $100 billion annually into Unacknowledged Special Access Projects (USAPS).

“If this sounds like an Orwellian nightmare, it gets worse, for the final act that they (the human cabal),” says Greer, “have in store is a False Flag event that will make 9/11 look like a fender bender.”

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Several of Greer’s whistle-blowers (such as Dan Morris, a retired Air Force Master Sergeant, belonged to a super-secret National Reconnaissance Organization [NRO]), held a cosmic top-secret clearance, which is 38 levels above top-secret, that even U.S presidents do not hold.

Subsequently, when alien crafts were retrieved and contact had been made, an Alien Contact Intelligence Organization (ACIO) was established.  

Whistle-blower sergeant Clifford Stone, worked with the 462nd Air Intelligence Secret Squadron, helped retrieve crashed ET crafts, worked in Operation Blue Fly and Project Moon Dust, and said there were “eleven” classifications above Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret, and even “above and beyond” normal Special Access Programs.

Stone went on to explain that the National Security Reconnaissance Office, just like the National Security Agency, was secret for many years and was not mentioned in the public domain.  Full knowledge about UFO programs, said Stone, was limited to a small number of people, actually being Special Access Programs within Special Access Programs, and they are almost uncontrollable (pp. 30-33).

THE WILLIAM JOHN PAWELEC STORY
Pawelec and the Controllers

William John Pawelec was an intriguing whistle-blower who, like so many capable professionals that found themselves, sometimes unexpectedly and with no real preparation and defense, face to face with an enemy that was as treacherous as they were invisible.

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Pawelec had been a computer operation and programming specialist in the Air Force in the mid-1960s, first at Pope Air Force Base and then in Vietnam. He left the military and went to work for Rosco Electronics, one of the largest manufacturers and installers of access control equipment in the world, and then proceeded into the military once again, allowing him to regain a security clearance. He did a lot of work for the State Department developing security systems for national security, and also for large corporate systems, and later for SAIC and TRI-COR.   

In 1973, Pawelec was developing implantable chips in North Glen, Colorado, as it was then used in hypodermic injections to horses. Pawelec was aware through naval offices that there were discussions of developing tracking devices to follow necessary targets; Pawelec mentioned the case in Europe where the Prime Minister of Italy was kidnapped, drained of sensitive information, brutalized, or both. It was speculated by officials that a technology is developed allowing authorities “to track these people or locate them quickly.”

This whole topic was the basis of a meeting set-up at a Secure Communications Intelligence-Information Facility (SCIF). Pawlec’s friend “Bob” (who had intimate contacts in the CIA) took no quiet action to investigate two ‘mystery men’ that snuck into the meeting and began probing the meeting leaders with questions. They claimed to be from the Department of Agriculture and the Department of the Treasury.  The ‘mystery men’ wanted to know how a couple billion of the implants could be manufactured, with unique identity numbers, have flexibility monitoring temperature, blood pressure, pulse, and even waveforms of the brains,

Such a chip was removed from a lady in 1999, and when it was removed and examined closely, resembled somewhat a version of the chip used in Denver.  She supposed the chip had been implanted either in 1980 or 1981.

Pawelec said the gentleman who invented the chip “was very wealthy and abruptly had passed the technology”: “Somebody else took it and ran with it and we never knew who it was.”

In 1984, the University of New South Wales had a microscopic lithium Niobite chip, and experiments showed it was viable and could send and receive as an RF transmitter.  The professor who did this work was sent to talk to Pawelec’s Systems Group of Colorado for further experiments.

A meeting was set-up in Virginia at a subcontractor’s company; people, like the Director of Security at the State Department, and, again ‘mysteries men’ came, carrying credentials. The ‘mystery men’ knew all the details about time, place and topic of the meeting.  Pawelec felt this somehow had a connection with his knowing the Head of Security at the State Department because Pawelec had designed that man’s security systems for Mainstay, the headquarter in Foggy Bottom in D.C.   

Because of these meetings, the professor at the University of New South Wales received a giant grant, and later the technology was transferred. A friend that Pawelec had in San Francisco (who was involved in tracking people and National Security, doing FAB-Access and other related devices in a European electronics firm of Siemens) said his company was “making billions of these chips” that strikingly resembled the Pawelec chip.  A year later, the company closed down and the chips disappeared.

Bob and Pawelec continued to investigate. Bob contacted his CIA connections and asked additional questions. A few days late, Bob was hit by a reinforced Land Rover and killed instantly. The driver of the Rover was hospitalized and immediately disappeared: all of his information that he gave was phony.  “It was a hit,” said Pawelec.

The two ‘mystery men’ who had come to the meetings had NSA, NRO credentials that could even pass all access control mechanisms, said Pawelec; however, they later checked, and discovered the individuals “didn’t exist.”  It meant they had unlimited budgets supporting their ventures. 

Pawelec knew about aerospace companies that were doing security work beyond black or even “darker.”  He named Northrop and plant 29.

The gentleman Pawelec met from the Department of Agriculture asked many cold, apolitical questions about chips, their ‘speed’ by which they could be produced, the frequency they could be built, various implant “attributes,” and much more.

“I believe there are at least four power groups in the world,” said Pawelec, “they have taken over various programs-particularly black programs within our government, and probably even the Russian government, and the Chinese. Politics to them, as we know it, is not the same. They have agendas totally unlike what our government…unbelievably, they are able to track everything going on around them, at the minutiae level,” (pp. 90 -98). 

All Pawelec’s files on this matter were withheld until his death, and his wife had been given instructions to disclose them.

A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE

Steven Greer points to the creation of Majestic-12, a Black Project headed by noted scientists and high-ranking intelligence officials, such as Admiral Arthur Redford, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Charles E. Wilson, Secretary of Defense, the Black Project probably prompted by the 1947 Roswell crash and other crashes.  Greer, having gained insights from his friends in the various “alphabet” and ‘high industry’ groups, says that MJ-12 is now known as SECOR, MAJIC, P.I 40, and MAJI-The Majority Intelligence Committee. Greer says MAJI – Control is part of the Office of Naval Intelligence, similar to the NSA and the CIA. “It’s all very, very similar to the NSA and CIA…very, very top-secret,” says Greer, and he explained in further detail: “Essentially, the covert management of this matter operates as part super-secret organized crime operation. It is more like a secret mafia than a government entity…extra-constitutional, both in the U.S and the U.K, as well as other countries…a criminal enterprise and a conspiracy of the first order…assassinations, murder, kidnapping, theft of technology…spin-off technologies based on the study of ET objects…”   (pp. 55-57)  

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“Greed and control (are) easily understood; the bureaucratic inertia of large secret operations is yet another matter,” says Greer. “After decades of operations, lies, public deceptions, and worse, how does such a group unravel all the webs it has weaved…a Specter of a sort of cosmic Watergate?”  (p. 82)

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Greer’s book, heavily indexed with photos and documents, is a plethora of facts and conjecture, running from descriptions of Area 51 to Greer’s unveiling of his own Disclosure Project and his Center or the Study of Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (CSETI) — discourse on the differences between ETV’s (Extraterrestrial Vehicles) and ARV’s (Alien Reproduction Vehicles) as “man-made” advanced anti-gravity craft that look like a “UFO.” There are additional disclosures of Greer’s meeting with famous dignitaries and their clandestine information, threaded alongside many assorted and quizzical paranormal incidents that would probably promote the reader’s skepticism and wonderment at times.  

There were many so-called “whistle-blowers” not mentioned in Greer’s approximate 800, such as the Bob Lazar story (some more reputable; some not). We have added an index that mentions additional information on those, but also the topic of the Hidden Intelligence controllers that are somehow involved.  When facts seem to contradict, one needs to look at the underlying patterns, connect the dots, and do your own private investigation and not just wait for the silver-platter to be handed to you.

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Still puzzling questions need to be asked of Greer, his associates, and the whistle-blowers:

For the interstellar technology that should have evolved into ‘fail-safe’ operation, why do ET vehicles still crash, and does human ‘radar’ technology still affect its capabilities, and why?

And how do these seeming ‘regular’ spaceships stand up against reports of more ‘ethereal’ ETs that operate almost as ‘spirits,’ and, as Steve Erdmann has questioned in the past, why do billion-mile-space-travelers even need ‘machines’ to travel the vast distances?

https://wordpresscom507.wordpress.com/2017/07/19/ufo-perspectives/

Why the wide variety and diversity of spacecraft design seen in retrievals, it should raise some suspicion and concern in that much differentially could be unwarranted to those degrees?

https://wordpresscom507.wordpress.com/2017/07/01/ghost-busting-ufos/

And where is the depository for to the answers to all these questions?

These conundrums need to be addressed and answered, for certainly the world of UFOs still continued to be filled with unending mystery.

As always, I’ll be questioning, investigating.  I’ll also be waiting.

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Additional sites on these topics: we do ‘not’ endorse any one site in its totality, but have found that eventually bits and pieces come together to make the underlying historical picture “jell” (and these are only a minute selection of so many out there):

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2018/02/surveillance-watching-you/
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-17/56-years-ago-today-eisenhower-warned-americans-unwarranted-influence-deep-state
https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh2_3WFEqYA&feature=share
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573193/Flying-saucer-focus-seagull-taking-poo-Slides-Snowdens-latest-leak-fake-UFO-images-used-deliberately-spread-misinformation-online-claims-expert.html
http://subversify.com/2011/10/14/cracking-the-matrix-our-militaryindustrial-spy-services/
http://talkingtree.org/bob-lazar-area-51-whistleblower/
http://www.extraordinarybeliefs.com/news/2015/5/29/corbell-public-response-about-bob-lazar
http://www.unacknowledged.info/william-pawelec-says-four-power-groups-control-the-world/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P5by1hq5sw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-cpcoHinsY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNJph3d5zak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1tr1MoxSMA&list=LLjil42P1nRuoZQtdAMl2U3Q&index=4
https://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolnewsarticles
https://martinacable99.wordpress.com/2012/11/04/targeted-individuals-psychotronics-anonymous/

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Story behind Serpo!

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The Late, Great Planet Serpo

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Copyright, C, Steve Erdmann, 2014
This article was published in the September 7 through 13, 2014 issues of UFO Digest.
It is printed here with permission.
Permission granted to reviewers and journalists to quote small statements.
Another version of this article can be seen at https://wordpresscom507.wordpress.com/2017/09/13/the-truth-hidden-on-serpo/

 

Anonymous” introduced an UFO Internet thread list to Victor Martinez in 2005, 2006, 2007 and 2011 telling of a supposed highly classified “Top Secret Codewood” about an interstellar Exchange Program in which twelve U.S military personnel arrived by alien spaceship in 1965 on a planet popularly known as Serpo.

Monitored by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), Project Crystal Knight, bits and pieces of this adventure was disclosed by “Anonymous” on Bill Ryan’s website. A mysterious “Red Book” was discussed as a compendium of our relationship with UFO intelligence “from 1947 to the present day.”

“Although he never mentions it,” said Author Len Kasten, “it seems very likely that he is, or has been a member of Majestic 12 (MJ-12), the secret organization set up by President Harry S. Truman to deal with extraterrestrial affairs.”

(Secret Journey to Planet Serpo, Len Kasten, Bear & Company, One Park Street, Rochester, Vermont, 05767, www.bearandcompanybooks.com, 2013, 282 pages, $18.00.)

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GERMANY AND THE SOCIETY OF GREEN MEN.

According to Kasten, the most influential person in the history of UFOs and extraterrestrials was Karl Ernst Haushofer who blended the “ultra nationalistic, militaristic and fascist” Japanese Black Dragons with the occult-based 1918 Thule Society.

“It is now well known that German aeronautical engineers were working on antigravity discs beginning in 1933,” said Kasten. “And by 1945 they had developed a highly sophisticated circular craft that was able to fly at very high altitudes and with incredible speed using electromagnetic propulsion technology.”

Largely a small Buddhist Monastic sect possessing occult and black magical power created Nazi inspiration: The Green Dragons, Society of Green Men; this cabal taught German militarists the power of astral travel and visits to a “snake world” of a serpent race called the Negas.

“It is said to be a massive, seven-level complex of huge caverns and tunnels, deep underground,” said Kasten. The teachings of the Green Dragons led directly into the Nazi Aryan Race doctrines..

THE EXPANSION OF GOTTERDAMMERUNG.

Nazi Germany eventually expanded into a Fourth Reich with seeds of a Wunderwaffee (Wonder Weapon), Twilight of the Gods, the Haunebu I and II, the “dreadnought,” that finalized into an integrated space program in the United States. Chief regime components were shipped and secreted to Neuschwabenland in Antarctica that had been established through 1930’s and 1940’s. Neu Berlin housed a community of about forty thousand civilians by the end of the war; a German-Japanese crew attempted a suicide space mission to Mars in 1945.

An armada headed by the late Admiral Richard E. Byrd, sent to squelch the Nazi operation, was surprised in 1947 by unexpected Nazi flying discs.

“Now certain that the Third Reich had survived in Antarctica and had perfected their flying discs,” said Kasten, “it is likely that alarm, and even panic, prevailed at the Pentagon.”

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With the crash of alien discs in New Mexico in 1947 (as well as other places), a completely new game plan had to be invented.  An alien that was detained but treated well by American military forces, contacted its home planet and eventually repatriated. The story continued by claiming that this led to the establishment of some sort of relationship between the American government and the people of its home world – said to be a planet of the binary star system Zeta Reticuli.

Further disc crashes and capture of extraterrestrial biological entities (EBEs) “opened up an entirely new era of our planet history.”  An Executive Summary, The Red Book, was supervised by “Anonymous.”

Zeta Reticuli had a history in ufology (including the Betty and Barney Hill abduction and the Bob Lazar story), having been claimed as the home system of an alien race called the Greys.

“It was the first baby step for Earth on the stage of galactic affairs,” said Kasten, “and it initiated a lasting alliance between the United States and civilization on a distant planet.”.

VISIT FROM ZETA RETICULI.

“…the Ebens did send another scout craft to Earth,” said Kasten, “on May 20, 1953. And that craft did not crash – it landed.”

The four Ebens were taken to the Los Alamos Laboratories. The craft went to a Nevada test site.

Intelligence “turf wars,” well into the 1960’s, the Kennedy Administration, all prefaced the creation of an “exchange program” with the Ebens that had scientists go to their home planet of Serpo.  Majestic-12 clandestinely supervised the events.

Portions of the book described the selection and training of the Serpos astronauts and their scheduled landings on Serpo. Readers are best to determine for themselves the “guts” of the book that described the adventures of our astronauts on Serpo. Those events were laced through various narratives about the life of the Ebens and their inventions that, frankly, resembled “campy” science fiction on a 1950’s television series. Movie producer Steven Spielberg was supposedly “leaked” classified UFO files. The late scientist Carl Sagan, said to be part of the Serpo adventure, supported its planning..

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“Evidently, the actions of every Eben were controlled by orders or directions from a central authority via the device worn on the belt,” said Kasten, “and the movements of the sun. The central authority is apparently an agency of the council of governors, so named by the Team. This makes the Eben populace almost robotic. It would even be appropriate to use the term enslaved.”.

THE RETURN AND QUESTIONS.

After thirteen years on Serpo, the crew returned to earth on August 18, 1978. Two remained on Serpo. Military debriefing ran from 1978 until 1984. The Air Force Office of Special Investigation (AFOSI) became the astronauts’ “handlers.”.

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The Mysterious World of Serpo.

The Ebens did return on November 11, 2010 and November 2012.  A Final Report was written in 1980.

Kasten had an easy, and sometimes polished, style of writing and a few acclaimed books to his name; unfortunately, as it so happened in so many UFO ‘legends,’ the “tide can turn” with the swell of investigations that researched beneath the surface. “All that glittered was not gold.”

Questions had risen about the events described in the book. Steve Erdmann saw gaping holes in Kasten’s Eben history. It seemed that a lot of alleged UFO history activity was taking place as a continual basis on Earth, despite the sketchy “trips” from Serpo in 1947, 1953, 1965, 2010 and 2012. A whole range of UFO activity existed since 1947. This history included the testimony of a co-pilot, Mike Dinan, one of two airline pilots who were directed away from Area 51 in 1988 during multiple “lights” zipping at terrific speeds onto a landing strip (The Unexplained Files, “Paranormal Highway of America”, Chuck Zuchowski, investigator, Sean Smith, director). What was the progenitor of all this UFO activity for the past 67 years?

Further alleged UFO bustle could be seen in another book that highlighted various fluid UFO activities..

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RAECHEL’S EYES.

The Serpo story, in several ways, seemed to resemble the same story line of fiction possibly fostered off as fact in the book Raechel’s Eyes: coauthored by Helen Littrell and Jean Bilodeaux and published by Wild Flower Press, 2005.  The authors tell the story of a teenage female hybrid called Raechel and her attempt to “pass” among humans as one of them.

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“Raechel” – Helen Littrell

An unusual roommate showed up named “Raechel Nadien” in the book and “Racheal” with a differently spelled last name in the ARC Dean of Enrollment Services confirmation at a nearby school. With Racheal was her “father,” USAF Colonel “Harry Nadien.”  The Colonel would eventually tell Helen and Marisa (two characters in the book) that he had worked since 1956 at a highly classified underground facility called “Four Corners” many miles south of Ely, Nevada.  This was a connection point in route to the northern edge of Area 51, Groom Lake, Nellis AFB, Nevada — long associated with secretly housing a few live extraterrestrials and trying to back-engineer extraterrestrial craft and technologies..

http://www.earthfiles.com/2014/05/30/part-1-racheals-e-t-human-hybrid-eyes/.

The problem with such similar and multiple scenarios is that they left incongruous cracks in the tales of extraterrestrials coming to earth.  In the case of  Raechel Nadien and fellow ET visitors, visits to ATIC and other secret areas were regular and often: there were no allusions to Serpo and those clandestine visits, though Nadien’s space traffic was systematic.  I am quite sure that the ‘tellers’ of such tales would act quickly to repair these cracks, but, perhaps revealing only more ‘cracks.’

The “Eyes” book began with Air Force Colonel Harry Nadien, the man who in the 1970s presented himself as Raechel’s father and his assignment in 1956 to Four Corners, a secret military base in Nevada, where it was believed that several times a year craft carrying extraterrestrials would land; Raechel appeared in the 1970’s. Did Colonel Nadien tell anyone or Marisa the entire story about how he came to be involved with aliens and how he adopted Raechel as his daughter? Again, the story alluded to much UFO traffic..

http://paolaharris.com/english/home-page/breaking-news-helen-littrell-comes-forth-permits-videotaped-interview-by-researcher-paola-harris-after-8-years-the-truth-behind-raechels-eyes.

Unfortunately, some investigators found further into their investigations a disappointing mixed bag of events in the Serpo tale:

Author and filmmaker Linda Moulton-Howe had been informed about an Earth/alien exchange program in 1983, when doing research for UFOs: The ET Factor, a documentary for HBO. Given approval by his superiors to allow her to Top Secret Air Force information and video footage in her documentary, Air Force Sergeant Richard C. Doty approached Linda..

RICHARD DOTY, GOVERNMENT FOUL.

“Some of the information, Doty said, involved an alleged exchange program of humans who left Holloman Air Force Base in 1964 for Zeta Reticuli. Howe was told that three humans went but one died on the alien planet; one went insane (but there was no information on his fate); and one returned to Earth and was then living in a U.S. government safe house on an undisclosed island.”.

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_projectSERPO08.htm.

One criticism of Project Serpo stems from the lack of forensic proof of one of its alleged witnesses, Sergeant Richard Doty. Doty has been involved in other mysterious UFO-related activities (see Majestic 12 and Paul Bennewitz); he appeared to be a discredited source (or a purposeful provider of disinformation). Additionally, there is no physical evidence supporting the project’s existence. According to Tim Swartz of Mysteries Magazine, Doty, who promised evidence to Moulton Howe, before he began to back out, has been involved in circulating several other UFO conspiracy stories. Swartz also expressed the opinion that the specifics of Project Serpo have diverged considerably with different versions. It was alleged that the entire series of posts were designed to be “viral marketing” for a new book by Doty..

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.(“FALCON: Sgt. Richard Dick Doty, USAF (Ret.), Special Agent, Air Force Office of Special Investigations, reported to have engaged in UFO disinformation projects, including reportedly hoaxing TV producer Linda Moulton Howe concerning availability of a tape showing a UFO landing at Holloman Air Force Base, NM.  Doty was also allegedly waging psychological warfare on Albuquerque defense electronics contractor Paul Bennewitz, concerning Bennewitz’s electronic monitoring of UFO activity around Kirtland AFB/Sandia National Laboratories, Albuquerque, reportedly causing/exacerbating a mental breakdown in Mr. Bennewitz. Reportedly, FALCON claims to have seen the Roswell Alien Autopsy film (shown worldwide August 28, 1995) some time ago at Los Alamos National Laboratory.”) .

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2014/aug/14/men-in-black-ufo-sightings-mirage-makers-movie.

An investigative film entitled Mirage Men was extracted from the 2010 book of the same name by the British author Mark Pilkington, who is also involved here as writer, producer and onscreen talking head. The film was highly focused, converging on the U.S., specifically a handful of well-known figures and events in UFO circles. One paramount player in both the book and film is Richard Doty, a former counterintelligence officer with the U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI), who claimed to have spent decades deliberately spreading disinformation about extraterrestrials: “weapons of mass deception,” as one interviewee hauntingly put it. Another is UFOlogist and author William Moore, whose books included The Roswell Incident and The Philadelphia Experiment..

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Mark Pilkington.

“Mirage Men doesn’t break any new ground in discussing many of these topics: readers will find discussion of them in books ranging from Jacques Vallee’s Messengers of Deception through to Greg Bishop’s book on the deception aimed at Paul Bennewitz, Project Beta (Bishop himself appears extensively in the documentary),” said Greg in A Fractured Hall of Mirrors, 4:46 p.m., June 17, 2013.  “What it does do though is gets Richard Doty, a notoriously slippery man to corner, in front of the camera discussing the things he has done, along with a number of the other significant players. The intelligent viewer will however ask why Rick Doty came forward willingly to be an interview subject for this documentary, given every move he has made on the UFO topic seems to have been precisely calculated to have a certain effect.   He seemingly has no reason to offer all this information.

So why is he doing it? And why does he admit to so much, but then deny involvement with Serpo when investigators seem to have caught him red-handed (via email IP addresses)?”.

https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/htm/serpo.htm.

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Artist Conception of the Serpo Crew Contact.
DEVIL IN THE DETAILS.

Further criticisms of the story included the usual arguments against the various UFO theories, descriptions of the UFO data, and faster-than-light travel, as well as astronomical knowledge of the Zeta Reticuli system.  A list of complaints (though not the final count) went as follows:

  • There was currently no evidence of life in the system and no evidence of planets because the stars are widely separated (several thousand astronomical units).
  • Zeta Reticuli was not a close binary: the two stars are one light year apart.
  • Claims of excess radiation because of the presence of a second star are nonsensical.
  • UFO researcher Greg Bishop quoted “Request Anonymous” in “Serpo Was a Big Fat Fake” (UFO Mystic, Thursday, February 22, 2007 [7:30 p.m. CST].): “The 12 remained until 1978, when they were returned to the same location in Nevada.  Seven men and one woman returned.  Two died on the alien’s home planet.  Four others decided to remain, according to the returnees. Of the eight that returned, all have died.  The last survivor died in 2002.”  Bishop pointed out a simple error: The math is wrong.  How could eight people return to Earth out of twelve when two died on the planet and four decided to remain?
https://www.sott.net/article/124496-Abovetopsecret-com-Project-Serpo-Psy-ops-and-the-Pentagons-Flying-Fish
  • “Anonymous” claimed that Ebens weighed the equipment of the Team, which calculated to 4.5 tons or 9,000 pounds. Allegedly, military style C-Rations were carefully planned for 10 years. However, the true math, instead, would be as follows: C rations, that is a box a day for each person: Weight of a box: 7 pounds, i.e. a little more than 3 kg.  There were 12 astronauts, therefore 36 kilos per day. Per annum: 13 tons. For ten years that, however, would be 130 tons.
https://ufologie.patrickgross.org/htm/serpo.htm
  • “In the UFO hoax stakes this is still way below UMMO (another sophisticated tale eventually discovered to be a hoax…S.E.); the science fiction is derivative; the story is obvious rubbish, with absurdities such as humans actually being able to eat alien food,” said reviewer Roger Rogerson. “The society makes little sense as a source of advanced technology.  If they think they can make a film out of this, I reckon that Steven Spielberg and the creators of Star Trek would both have a good case for plagiarism.”
https://ufosrealorhoax.blogspot.com/2014/?m=1

(Roger Caleb Rogerson is a former Detective Sergeant of the New South Wales Police Force. He was one of its most decorated officers, having received at least 13 awards for bravery, outstanding police-officer-ship and devotion to duty including the Peter Mitchell Trophy, the highest annual police award.  Sadly, as the ironies of Fate would have it, Rogerson stepped into crime and in a final trial on 15 June 2016, Rogerson and Glen McNamara were found guilty of  Jamie Gao’s murder.)

  • According to Tim Swartz of Mysteries Magazine, Doty, who promised evidence to Moulton Howe before backing out, has been involved in circulating several other UFO conspiracy stories. Swartz also expressed that the details of Project Serpo have varied considerably with different accounts.  It has been alleged that the entire series of posts were designed to be viral marketing for a new book by Doty..

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Author Tim Swartz.

As can be seen, on a more fundamental level, it is entirely possible that the messages originating the story were deliberate hoaxes.  The postings were to Internet forums that cover conspiracy theories and UFOs, and a cursory examination of such forums shows that hoaxes are very possible. Some UFOlogists have even claimed that the messages were a hoax perpetrated by the American military and intelligence communities as a cover for real secret programs..

http://alienjigsaw.com/milabs-psyops/MILABs-REABs-and-the-New-MKULTRA.html.

All of the information presented to Victor Martinez and Bill Ryan by ‘Request Anonymous’ came in fact from Richard C. Doty.   Martinez may have suspected Doty’s involvement, but Bill Ryan knew from the very start that he was getting the Serpo material directly from the former AFOSI security guard. Doty has continuously denied being involved in the story, despite the mountains of evidence to the contrary. In addition to Doty, Martinez and Ryan, the behind the scenes ‘Team of Five’ who collaborated extensively on the project is completed by Dr. Christopher ‘Kit’ Green – a former analyst with the CIA, and physicist Dr. Harold (Hal) E. Puthoff.   “The material to follow will show that Serpo was not a lone-gunman operation, but collaboration between three friends, who between them already had many years’ experience of scamming the UFO community.   This investigation, told in full for the first time, is the precursor to our main report into the Imaginary Intelligence Agency, a group also known under the name Scammers Inc.”.

http://theunexplainedmysteries.com/2018/02/05/project-serpo-exchange-program-aliens-humans/

Bill Ryan, a chief proponent of publicizing the Project Serpo claims, announced on March 5, 2007 that he was stepping down from his role as webmaster for the Serpo material. Ryan nevertheless maintained his belief that an extraterrestrial exchange program did occur – although he stated that the Serpo releases definitely contained disinformation..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_objects_proposed_in_religion,_astrology,_ufology_and_pseudoscience#Serpo%EF%BB%BF.
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UFOlogist Bill Ryan

.SERPO, A FINAL ANALYSIS.

An investigator that went by the alias of “ryguy” said he was fortunate to intercept raw emails from the hidden players in the hoax. On Sunday, May 20, 2007, 1:09 p.m., Ryguy said:

“Our team of researchers determined that TheWizardofZin@lycos.com was the original ‘Anon’s’ email address, and ‘Sylvester McCoglin’ the name behind Anonymous.

“In an effort to identify who in fact was behind the Serpo story, an email account was created called the wizardofzin@yahoo.com and on February 16, 2006, an email from this account was sent to Victor Martinez. Victor responded just over 30 minutes later.”

Steve Erdmann presented some of them, uncleansed and in virgin form. Readers examined and deciphered them:

“[From Sylvester]
“Victor:
We must be careful. TRUST NO ONE!!!
You were NOT FIRED.
WE WERE FIRED.
“I now need your help to identify the imposters.
DO NOT SHARE THIS MESSAGE WITH ANYONE
Send me copies of ALL Messages you have from me and
the imposter. THEY MUST BE EXPOSED TO MY SUPERIORS SO
THAT WE MAY PROCEED.
“I will explain more soon. The lycos address is
compromised. Give this address to NO ONE and do not
tell anyone that we are in contact.
reply immediately. I miss our chats.
SM.”

“[Reply from Victor]
“SYLVESTER:
“WOW! I have tried sending messages to THIS lycos address but they have
ALL bounced, so I removed you from my stream e-mail list as of two (2)
weeks ago. WHAT happened?! WHO was sending the postings? Bill Ryan
has been getting ALL of the postings, NOT me so I have NO messages to
forward to you at all!
“Also, per your request, I ERASED ALL of your e-mails prior to Dec
19/20, so there are NONE to compare them with! I RESPECTED YOUR WISHES.
“MANY people have suspected that Bill was dealing with an IMPOSTER
because his streams had a different “feel” to them than mine. What I
can do is stream the postings since you left,… would you like those?
REPLY IMMEDIATELY!”

“Editor comment:
1. The Lycos email account has been inactive since last December.
2. Why would the original Anonymous have asked Victor to delete the original emails?

“Victor continues his due diligence in authenticating thewizardofzin@yahoo.com as his original ‘Anon’.
“As you will notice, even before doing this authentication, Victor acknowledges sending a ‘flurry of emails’ to this address.”

“[From Victor]
“SYLVESTER:
I am 99.99% CERTAIN that it is ‘you’ by a key phrase you used of  ‘I
miss our chats.’ [me too!]

“But you also said ‘TRUST NO ONE!’ so this should include YOU, should it
not?

“OK, so to make 100% CERTAIN that it’s the “old” ANONYMOUS, let me ask
you two (2) ‘trivia’ questions which you should be able to answer
easily:

“1) When was your LAST posting sent to me which comprised the journal
entries for POSTING #11?

“2) Pull out a trivia question from your OLD lycos.com account and then
answer your own question and send it to me at your NEW yahoo.com
account,… how’s that for MY being careful?

“I just sent you a flurry of e-mails catching you up with Everything
that’s been going on.

“FLASH: ‘Project SERPO’ is on the FRONT COVER of the new Feb/March
issue of ‘UFO Magazine’ with virtually the ENTIRE issue devoted to it! CHECK
IT OUT! I’ll send you and the members of the DIA-6 ALL copies of it if
you wish!

“NOTE: I will NOT include this new e-mail address in new future
postings just to make SURE that your ID is NOT compromised; I’ll send you any
future postings privately and to you ONLY; no ‘cc’s’ OK?

“AC-626 358-xxxx – landline
AC-626 824-xxxx – cellphone.”

Reality Uncovered investigators tried to untangle the mishmash of names and researchers that have been deliberately and, perhaps, unfortunately sewn together in order to bolster the claims of Anonymous and supporters; Ron Pandolfi was one such individual caught in the web: 

There were a few things people should know about the incident Gary referred to, where Ron and Green appeared to be discussing the “Serpo” hoax.  The facts were as follows:

– Ron Pandolfi did not volunteer his time or attention to the hoax – he was contacted and drawn into it (possibly intentionally) by Dr. Green.

– Ron conducted an unofficial, brief query regarding a few alleged DIA names that Dr. Green told Ron Pandolfi might be relevant and important.

– In the course of trying to ascertain where the names Dr. Green received came from, Ron Pandolfi interviewed Rick Doty via email.

– All of the above activities were done out of a personal, private request from his friend Kit Green – otherwise Pandolfi would have had no interest in this drama

“From: Ronald Pandolfi [mailto:xxxxx@cox.net]
Sent: Sat 9/2/2006 2:29 PM
“To: Green, Christopher
Subject: RE: PRIVATE: Search For Two DIA Sources

“Kit,

“I was not with you during the meeting you had with Barry Hennessey about Rick’s polygraph records.  The meeting you and I participated in included Barry Hennessey, Col. Weaver, and the CIA CI Director and did not involve any discussion of Rick’s polygraph records. So the quote from Ms. Loscowski regarding what I did and the circumstances of the meeting could not have been correct.  More likely the person who claimed to be Ms. Loscowski described what she had read on the Internet concerning the fabricated story that you and I had met with Barry Hennessy to discuss Rick’s polygraph records. Therefore, the lady who contacted you most likely was not Col.Weaver.

“Your expansion of the story of the two DIA employees visiting LANL and being known to others has me concerned.  The names you provided do not correspond to any DIA employees. There are no people with those names that have TS//SCI clearances.  If the story of the sources/visitors is true, they are falsely representing themselves as DIA employees, possibly to access sensitive facilities and acquire classified information for a foreign service.

“I am nearly certain that Rick fabricated this entire story, and that he is Mr. Anonymous, Ms. Loscowski, and the two DIA sources/visitors.  If so, Rick may just be having a good time, and we need not be concerned for national security.  If not, there may actually be a network of foreign agents penetrating some of our most sensitive facilities under the false flag of a DIA operation.  Therefore please be very clear in describing the form of communications you had with Ms. Loscowski (e.g. phone, e-mail, etc.); how you acquired the additional background concerning the DIA sources visitors; and what you know of about the many people who know them.

Ron .”.

RYGUY’S FINAL SUMMATION.

“On February of 2006, in collaboration with the RU research team (at the time), I wrote part 9 of the Serpo expose – which combined a long communication stream that took place between Marilyn Ruben, myself, and Kit Green, as well as background research conducted by the team, mostly by Hidden Hand on the Rubens.  The resulting article concluded as follows:

“With the publication of this article, I am personally concluding my research into Serpo. My personal focus will no longer be on this hoax, but instead on the larger issues where individuals have been involved, both inside and outside of U.S. Intel for many years.  The larger issue of what the government truly knows (or doesn’t know), what incidents remain unexplained that represent authentic sightings and encounters, and how all governments have dealt, and continue to deal with such phenomenon.

“Since that article, we have worked to move our focus away from the Serpo drama and to follow the leads related more to government intelligence associated with ufology, and talking with researchers who focus more on intel, counterintel, and espionage.  These are researchers who also recognize the same patterns that we’ve recognized can be found running through ufological stories and folklore for many decades.

“One particular thread of inquiry has brought us back to this article from last year. New data has now become available that sheds new light on the ‘TC/Seinu Group.’   In light of this new data, it would be inaccurate and unscientific if I didn’t correct part of my previous conclusion from a year ago, and replace it with data that more accurately replaces that previous conclusion.  The first step is to correct that previous conclusion.

“The conclusion was as follows:

“The legend of Serpo will be that it was a fabrication of Collins and Rick, as part of a viral marketing plan to generate buzz and interest for a book. It is this writer’s conclusion that the only ones ‘behind’ Rick Doty, in the creation of this hoaxed information, were Bob Collins and Douglas and Marilyn Ruben.

“While the premise of the entire article was accurate – laying out the connections of a book promoter to this particular book author, as well as the fact that a collaborator (Doty) of the author’s (regardless of their silly staged ‘arguments’) was in the process of distributing the Serpo releases – that one final paragraph was speculative and, now we realize, not completely accurate.

“While Marilyn did in fact help Collins to promote his book, and in addition assisted the team of 5 in fending off attacks that would expose Rick as the source of the releases – we have uncovered enough additional information to be convinced that she was not one of those who were creating these releases.

Our subsequent investigations after February 2006 have shown that there are others who are more likely to have been working with Doty in creating the releases, and so it must be pointed out, in all fairness and accuracy, that Marilyn most likely was not one those people.  The article on the main page will also be edited shortly to reflect this – Ry.”.

http://www.realityuncovered.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=871&sid=b2f4e3fa6bcd27fb606fb8c2d4153610%EF%BB%BF.
DANGERS OF DISINFORMATION CONTROL.

Ken Adachi, Editor of  http://educate-yourself.org/mc/index.shtml, said in The Ultimate Terror:

“The first phase of government mind control development grew out of the old occult techniques which required the victim to be exposed to massive psychological and physical trauma, usually beginning in infancy, in order to cause the psyche to shatter into a thousand alter personalities which can then be separately programmed to perform any function (or job) that the programmer wishes to ’install.’  Each alter personality created is separate and distinct from the front personality.  The ‘front personality’ is unaware of the existence or activities of the alter personalities.  Alter personalities can be brought to the surface by programmers or handlers using special codes, usually stored in a laptop computer.  The victim of mind control can also be affected by specific sounds, words, or actions known as triggers.

“The second phase of mind control development was refined at an underground base below Fort Hero on Montauk, Long Island (New York) and is referred to as the Montauk Project.

The earliest adolescent victims of Montauk style programming, so called Montauk Boys, were programmed using trauma-based techniques, but that method was eventually abandoned in favor of an all-electronic induction process which could be ‘installed’ in a matter of days (or even hours) instead of the many years that it took to complete trauma-based methods.”.

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The Montauk Facilities.
EVIDENCE NOT INSINUATION.

We had entered an age where the perception of reality can be created and controlled by conspirators, handlers and Power brokers that have intruded – even into the possible quantum level – upon our scientifically established world.  This should have behooved us to be evermore perceptive in distinguishing the nature of facts and findings.  A large portion of the world’s population showed a tendency to believe that UFOnauts are here today, without holding any solid scientific evidence as investigators and readers to back up these beliefs.  These citizens are especially vulnerable to psychotronic mind manipulation.

Could some aspects of such a tale somehow be truthfully hidden beneath all the rumor, entertainment and speculative clamor?  That, as is with most objective reality, had to be ‘proven’ somehow.  The byline should have existed as ‘beware.’  Modern Paranormal investigators had to be three times as smart and grounded in scientific and forensic reality over and above what practices had been in the past.

“A modern version of MK-Ultra is presently in widespread operation in many nations,” said investigative researcher Jeff Polachek, “it involves the covert implantation of classified neurotechnology into the brains and bodies of non-consenting and unaware subjects.  This is accomplished by ‘black operations’ involving home entries, complicit personnel in medical and custodial settings, and possibly other means.  The civilian population as a whole, including children, is the target.”

“Concerted efforts are made to prevent subjects from understanding what is happening to them,” continued Polachek, “amnesia is artificially induced to prevent them from recalling anything about these events, most likely by means of electrical stimulation of the claustrum or other parts of the brain using previously-implanted neurotechnology and/or the application of drugs such as anesthetics or benzodiazepines.

“The secrecy of these programs is preserved with the aid of disinformation campaigns or ‘cover stories.’  These campaigns include a number of carefully chosen themes.”.

http://www.jeffpolachek.com/mind-control/mc-exhibits/313-mc-301-common-disinformation-themes.

As readers might demand clarification about further details and proof of the Serpo story, contradictions and falsification may perforate the tale even further.  If this would happen, the summation would not be about a grandiose adventure to a distant planet, but a swansong for the late, great planet Serpo.

Author Len Kasten has a B.A. degree from Cornell University, where he majored in psychology and minored in literature and philosophy. After graduating from Cornell, he entered the U.S. Air Force Aviation Cadet program.  While in the Air Force, he experienced a UFO encounter that had a transformative effect on his life, although he did not realize it until a few years later. After serving in the Air Force, he moved to Richmond, Virginia.  On frequent trips to Virginia Beach, he spent a lot of time in the extensive New Age library at the Association for Research and Enlightenment (A.R.E.), the organization founded by psychic Edgar Cayce, where he acquired a self-education in metaphysics.  He then moved to Boston where he was introduced to Theosophy and joined the Boston Theosophical Society.

Then later, while working in Washington D.C. in the 1960’s, he felt drawn to join the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP). NICAP was the most prestigious organization in the country investigating UFO phenomena.  Len then moved to Hartford, Connecticut where he joined the American Philosopher Society.  Upon the death of the founder, Cyril Benton, Len became the president of the society. In the 1980’s, the APS, under Len’s leadership, commenced a program of weekly public lectures by prominent metaphysical and ufology researchers, writers, and leaders.  While living in Connecticut Len became the editor of an early New Age publication, Metamorphosis Magazine, co-founded with Gordon-Michael Scallion..

https://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/kasten-len/49227.

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“Needless to say, the story is total bollocks, as the Brits would say. The reason this is coming up again right now is because of the people involved. One of them is Richard Doty, a well-known UFO fabulist, which is no surprise. He has confessed to supposedly providing disinformation to the poor, mad Paul Bennewitz on behalf of the Air Force. (I say that Bennewitz (1927-2003) was ‘mad’ because he was literally using tinfoil to keep out alien thought rays, even before he had any contact with the Air Force.)  Although in my view it’s much more likely that Doty was operating as a free-lance disinformation agent, telling B.S. stories to Bennewitz for his own inscrutable reasons.”
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https://badufos.blogspot.com/2019/03/aawsap-meets-serpo-hoax.html.
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Movie Scene Replicating a Serpo Crew
http://www.et-secrethistory.net/secret-journey.html.
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https://noriohayakawa.wordpress.com/2015/08/31/did-richard-c-doty-ruin-the-life-of-albuquerque-businessman-paul-bennewitz-2/.
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The Mysterious World of Serpo
http://enkispeaks.com/2015/04/12/our-et-allies-ebes-from-serpo-helped-us-create-an-interstellar-fleet-hear-len-kasten-share-defense-information-agency-documents/.
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“Raechel” – Helen Littrell
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The Montauk Facilities
http://www.crystalinks.com/montauk.html.
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Mark Pilkington
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1n1eadtLW4
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Operation High Jump was Attacked
https://www.pinterest.com/explore/operation-highjump/.
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Las Vegas Videos Capture Images & Sounds of 2nd Shooter on Lower Level of Mandalay Bay Hotel

MULTIPLE GUNMEN COMMITTED LAS VEGAS MASSACRE

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LAS VEGAS VIDEO IMAGES AND SOUNDS PROVE MULTIPLE GUNMEN COMMITTED LAS VEGAS MASSACRE

Las Vegas Video Images & Sounds Capture 2nd Shooter

on Low Roof of Mandalay Bay Hotel …

Sounds of Other Shooters Farther Away as…

Major Witnesses  Dying Off in Strange Ways 

As They Did in the Aftermath of the JFK Assassination

By Robert Morningstar

(Copyright 2017, Robert Morningstar-All Rights Reserved)

The Las Vegas Massacre is the worst gun related killing in the modern history of the United States. The nation is in shock.  The questions are many, the answers from authorities are few and not satisfactory or responsive to the many important questions being posed by the public and the press.

One of the primary questions is whether or not Stephen Paddock had help in carrying out the massacre.  Was he part of a wider plot?  Many witnesses and survivors of the shooting claim to have seen more than one shooter and to have heard more than one gun shooting at times simultaneously with distinctly different sounds and rates of gunfire and muzzle sounds.

The logistics of the attack also suggest that Paddock had help as a few hundreds of pounds in weapons, ammo and explosives were involved and very few people believe that Paddock (age 64) could have accomplished all the things he is said to have done to prepare his room for the attack, including lugging more moe than 20 weapons of various types, plus thousands of rounds of ammo and even high powered explosives in his car.

Meanwhile, authorities seem dumbfounded and slow (or loath) to react to eyewitnesses’ accounts while they are still  “floating” 2nd shooter debunking stories.

For example, The Sheriff said October 4th that what the videos show, i.e. capturing a 2nd shooter, was actually a strobe light or reflections. “It was a strobe light” mistaken for machine gun fire, or that people were “mistaking reflections from the windows of the hotel” for rifle fire.

The purpose of this article is to prove that what the witnesses and survivors claim to have seen and heard during that horrible ordeal was true and accurate:

There were multiple gunmen, at least 4, shooting up Las Vegas that terrible night, October 1st, 2017.  Two were shooting from the Manadalya Bay Hotel and the others attacked the front entrances of the Bellagio, Tropicana, Planet Earth, Hustler’s, and the Flamingo Hotel.

 Astronomy & Astrology of October 1st, 2017

With regard to astronomy & astrology, what we have on October 1st in the sky over Las Vegas was the approaching Harvest Moon (an ancient pagan feast day) and when viewed from the concert arena, the unique sight of the alignment of the star “VEGA” in the constellation Lyra in transit stationed precisely above the Black Pyramid at the time of the attacks .

The Star Vega:

Etymology and Cultural Significance

The term Al Nesr al Waki appeared in the Al Achsasi al Mouakket star catalogue and was translated into Latinas Vultur Cadens, “the falling eagle/vulture”.

The constellation was represented as a vulture in ancient Egypt, and as an eagle or vulture in ancient India.

The Arabic name then appeared in the western world in the Alfonsine Tables,[97] which were drawn up between 1215 and 1270 by order of Alfonso X.[98] Medieval astrolabes of England and Western Europe used the names Wega and Alvaca, and depicted it and Altair as birds.[99]Each night the positions of the stars appear to change as the Earth rotates. However, when a star is located along the Earth’s axis of rotation, it will remain in the same position and thus is called a pole star. The direction of the Earth’s axis of rotation gradually changes over time in a process known as the precession of the equinoxes. A complete precession cycle requires 25,770 years,[100] during which time the pole of the Earth’s rotation follows a circular path across the celestial sphere that passes near several prominent stars.

At present the pole star is Polaris, but around 12,000 BC the pole was pointed only five degrees away from Vega.  Through precession, the pole will again pass near Vega around AD 14,000.[101] It is the brightest of the successive northern pole stars.[11]

Small white disks representing the northern stars on a black background, overlaid by a circle showing the position of the north pole over time

The path of the north celestial pole among the stars due to the precession.

Vega is the bright star near the bottom. Since anicent times, Vega has represented a predator, an eagle or a “Falling Vulture.”  Vultures feed on carrion, i.e. dead flesh. Vultures also prefer open fields for preying.

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Aerial view of Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, Nevada.

I’ve corellated the videos linked below with this external photos of the hotel to triangulate the postion of the 2nd Mandalay Bay Hotel shooter who fired from a low platform atop the green roof porch shown above.

There were no broken windows in that area of the hotel.  Using the POV of the Taxi Driver as she was aligned with the corner of the roof structure that covers the drive through access road to determine the position of the 2nd shooter.  Below is video proof exposing the postion of the shooter(s):

The Las Vegas Taxi Driver’s Video caught a shooter firing from the lower floor of the Mandalay Bay from a very close vantage point, i.e., pulling out of the Mandalay’s Drive-Though entrance.

I believe that this is indisputable proof and is consonant with the 1st video that I posted on Facebook & Twitter earlier, i.e. the stable video shot from the hotel across the street.  I’ve compiled all the links together below.

1-  Las Vegas Shooting- The Taxi Driver’s Video

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEf7HObspB0

 Compare with:

2 – Video from the hotel across the street.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gywc58Bxxc8

By freezing a clear frame of video taken by the Taxi Driver’s at the very moment when the camera captured the first muzzle flash and a section of the roof structure covering the hotel’s passenger drop-off entrance with external photos of the Mandalay Bay Hotel (see Aerial view of Mandalay Bay above),

By using the the cornered angles of the canopy roof structure that covers the hotel’s passenger drop-off area and overhangs /toward the exit road I was able to determine with precision the exact position of the vehicle and the camera angle to the shooter,

and thereby, place the shooter on the balcony that crowns the entrance, above and behind the “Green rooftop” seen in the arieal photo of the Mandalay Bay.

By comparing frames and correlating the driver’s position and the camera angle to the shooter’s position (indicated by the gun flash) in that frame, and using a triangular section of the unique roof (poviding two 90 degree angles for precise referencing,  I was able to calculate the shooter’s position to be outside the hotel and shooting from a balcony that covers the drive-through entrance of the hotel.

This explaiins how there would be NO broken windows on that level or that side of the hotel. However, windows are NO PROBLEM when the SHOOTER was standing OUTSIDE on a the balconuy of the roof that covers the entrance to Mandalay Bay.

3-  Crowd Scene and Sounds of 2 Automatic Weapons Fired at Same Time

BETWEEN TIME MARK 4:39 AND 4:52, WE CAN HEAR THE SOUNDS OF TWO (2) SEPARATE AND DISTINCTLY DIFFERENT AUTOMATIC WEAPONS, EACH FIRING AT A DIFFERENT RATE OF FIR, ONE FASTER THAN THE OTHER.

THE SOUNDS COMING FROM ONE OF THE WEAPONS ARE LOUDER (WITH A DEEPER SOUNDING REPORT, INDICATIVE OF A HIGHER CALIBER WEAPON) AND ONE SOUNDS MUCH CLOSER THAN THE OTHER.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muiHkkbPpdU

(Posted by Arch Angel Studios – Published on Oct 5, 2017)

Listen to the audio closely and study the characteristics of the sounds that were recorded between Time Mark 4:39 and 4:52.  We can clearly hear the sounds of TWO (2) separate and distinct automatic weapons, each firing at a different rate of fire, one faster than the other.

The sounds coming from one of the weapons is distinctly louder (with the deeper sound of a higher caliber weapon than a .223 caliber/556 mm round).

Furthermore, one gun sounds much closer to the crowd in the scene than the other other weapon, which can be heard in the distance

If the listener plays the Arch Angel video sequence above (from 4:39 to 4:52), he will hear both guns firing at the same time.  The sounds and rhythm heard in the bursts of shots in different sequences are distinct in sound and with a different and disparate rate of fire to be heard between the 2 guns, one automtatic weapon firing much faster than the other.

The video proceeds with the sounds of sporadic fire in the far distance, but then again at time mark 12:33, we can hear the sudden and loud crackling of 2 automatic weapons firing simultaneously, which once again present distinctly different sounds to human ear and the discordant sequence of the firing proves again as in the previous section (4:39 to 4:52) that 2 guns are firing together simultaneously.  

However, let’s study this video and take note of  this very interesting detail:

In the sequence, (starting at 12:33) both guns begin to fire almost at the same moment (as if being directed by radio from a central coordinating command).

However, the difference in sounds prove (acoustically) that we are hearing 2 fully automatic weapons of different caliber and firing at different distances from the targt area and recording device.and the racket of  the 2 sounds clashing with each other, with an irregular pattern of mixed sounds, differing in intensity and in frequency of fire as they hammer out shots that are out of sequence with each other,  

The Other Hotel Attacks

Bellagio Las Vegas

The Hotel Bellagio

Eyewitness’ Video from the Lobby of the Bellagio Hotel

Lobby Virtual Tour

Below is a report by contributor, Alexandra Bruce (Forbidden Knowledge TV), regarding the reported “lock-down” of the Bellagio Hotel shown in the video below.

Alexandra Bruce wrote:

“I was alerted about this video by a subscriber whose brother drives a limousine in Las Vegas.  He’s spoken to several other drivers and bellmen at the Bellagio, the Flamingo and other hotels surrounding Mandalay Bay.  All reported that their lobbies were shot up last Sunday night.

This indicates that more than one gunman was involved in the horrifying events that evening.

My subscriber wrote,

“The hotels were on lockdown and shattered glass was all over the floors. A friend of his posted a video of the Bellagio lobby and people sitting in corridors because they were not allowed to leave…this was a coordinated effort.”

She was referring to the cellphone video above. It was taken from inside the Las Vegas Bellagio hotel and live streamed by René Downs to her Facebook account at 1:52 AM on Monday, October 2nd, a couple of hours after the Las Vegas shooting. By Wednesday night, over 1 M people had viewed this on Facebook. René’s comment on this video post is:

“This was NOT all done by 1 shooter. Watch til end. News and LVPD are not reporting this correctly.”

Read the entire article by Alexandra Bruce by clicking the link below:

Alexandria Bruce on Las Vegas shooting

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Yournewswire.com reports:

The full Las Vegas police dispatch scanner audio has been released by Broadcastify, and it proves that first responder police confirmed that Stephen Paddock was not a lone wolf gunman, but received assistance from “multiple shooters at multiple locations.”

The scanner audio reveals that police received many reports from witnesses saying multiple people were shooting, and that Mandalay Bay security informed them there were shots fired from “floors 29 and 32.”

Besides the many eyewitness reports from members of the public, a police officer also urgently confirmed that there were at least two active shooters in the Mandalay Bay.

CONFIRMED there are at least 2 shooters with fully automatic weapons,” a police officer reported at 18:54 in the recording.

Multiple scenes then developed across Las Vegas, with police reporting and confirming multiple active shooters at the Tropicana and New York, New York Hotel-Casino (NY, NY).

CONFIRMED – Giles and Alibaba, casualties, East of the Catholic Shrine. SO WE HAVE TWO SCENES!,” said another officer at 38:30 in the recoding, confirming that there were casualties at Giles and Alibaba, a location out of range of Stephen Paddock’s gunfire from the Mandalay Bay.

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Mike Adams: Forensic Acoustic Analysis

Acoustical Proof of 2nd Shooter

MIke Adams present a brilliant analysis of the acoustical evidence of the shooting to prove the presence of a 2nd shooter and his relative distance from the venue and the other shooter.

Click the link below to read the article and watch Mike Adam’s video:

Luxor pyramid and Las Vegas skyline at night. Las Vegas, Nevada, USA (color)
https://www.newstarget.com/2017-10-08-bombshell-health-ranger-identifies-distance-of-second-shooter-at-las-vegas-massacre-not-mandalay-bay.html

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The Cryptic Charger

One of the unusual items discovered in Steven Paddock’s room was an electric  charger that did not belong to the deceased.  The FBI seized the charger and traced it to a man named John Beilman who lived inFairport, New York, a suburb of Rochester.

New York News Day reports:

“According to this report, upon the FBI searching the Mandalay Bay Hotel room used by CIA gun runner Stephen Paddock, a cell phone charger was discovered that had no accompanying phone—with SVR technology experts noting that this type of charger is used to charge a CP502520 3.0V 600mAh Li-MnO2 Non-rechargeable Thin Cell Battery used in various communication devices by both US Special Forces and CIA forces.

The company making this unique lithium battery, this report details, is Ultralife Corporation, based in Newark, New York, that specializes in military communications systems for the Pentagon—and whose lead engineer for this particular communication systems development was John Beilman.

Listing himself as a “product design and manufacturing professional”, this report continues, John Beilman was employed by Ultralife Corporation between 2007-2012 where he worked on various top-secret communications systems for the US military—thereafter his leaving to become a top engineer at the General Motors research facility located in Rochester New York.”

“The company making this unique lithium battery, this report details, is Ultralife Corporation, based in Newark, New York, that specializes in military communications systems for the Pentagon—and whose lead engineer for this particular communication systems development was John Beilman

Listing himself as a “product design and manufacturing professional”, this report continues, John Beilman was employed by Ultralife Corporation between 2007-2012 where he worked on various top-secret communications systems for the US military—thereafter his leaving to become a top engineer at the General Motors research facility located in Rochester New York.

Key Witness in Las Vegas Shooting Kills Self and Daughter

Following FBI Raid

http://thenewyorknewsday.com/2017/10/09/key-witness-in-las-vegas-shooting-kills-self-and-daughter-following-fbi-raid/

“Fearing that Ultralife Corporation had been secretly funneling their US military communications systems to the CIA, this report notes, this past Tuesday (3 October), the FBI raided the home of John Beilman under a secret US Federal Court warrant—and that caused Beilman, less than 12 hours later, during the early morning hours of Wednesday (4 October), to wheel out his severely disabled daughter Nicole into his home’s backyard where she was executed, with Beilman then killing himself too …

And that was followed 48 hours later (6 October) by the Pentagon awarding Ultralife Corporation new contracts valued at over $49 million.

Investigators searched Beilman’s Fairport home the day before he shot his severely disabled daughter and himself, according to sources close to the investigation.

Agents executed a search warrant and raided Beilman’s Williamsburg Drive home the day before he took his daughter, Nicole, into the backyard and shot her and then himself in the back of the head with a 12-gauge shotgun.John Beilman’s 27-year-old daughter, Nicole, had Rett Syndrome, a rare neurological disorder.Nicole Beilman relied upon a wheelchair and was dependent on her parents for care.” — New York News Day

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INFOWars – The War Room

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHAZVO8vmOE

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In Conclusion

In closing,  I would state (unequivocally) that The Las Vegas massacre, the worst gun assault carried out against modern day America, was a well-planned terrorist act in which at least 2 shooters fired on a helpless crowd from the environs of the Mandalay Bay Hotel while at least 2 other gunmen (with drivers) attacked the Bellagio, New York, New Yorkand Flamingo Hotelswhich lie not too far away from the Mandalay Bay Hotel, about 1 and quarter miles away in the case of Bellagio.

“The terrorists used a method of assault that reveals a coordinated attack that is typical of Al-Queda, ISIS and The Zetas (the nefarious Mexican contract killers and narcotraffickers), all of whom are driven by an inveterate hatred of the United States and the American people.”

The Zetas? …

Who KNEW?

The reader may well ask: “Why the ‘Zetas’?”  Let us not forget nor overlook the importance and the implications of the  loud altercation altercation that occurred in the front of the crowd 45 minutes before the shooting began when a couple, a man and a woman,  were thrown out of the venue because they had been arguing vociferously with some other fans, during which time they repeatedly yelled at people in the audience, warning (or were they threatening?) them:

“Everyone is going to die!  You’re all going to die tonight!”

As reported by the Daily Mail:

“Brianna Hendricks, who attended the Route 91 Harvest Festival with her mother to celebrate her 21st birthday, described the moment a woman screamed “they’re all around…you’re all going to fucking die today,”

“There was a lady who pushed her way forward into the concert venue and into the first row, and she started messing with another lady, and told us that we were all going to die tonight,” Hendricks told KSNV.

“It was about 45 minutes before the shots were actually fired,” she continued. “But then she was escorted out by security.”

Hendricks and her mother left the concert before the shooting began, and heard the shots ring out just as they returned to their room.

“Obviously she was telling us that — either to warn us, or to warn us that we were all going to die and she was part of it,” Hendricks added.

Hendricks described the woman and a man she was with as Hispanic and about 5-foot-5.

When asked why the pair had been escorted out, Hendricks replied: “Because she had been messing with the lady in front of her and telling her that she was going to die. That we were all going to die.”

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This sounds to me like an intentionally staged event. The Hispanic lady began “mussin” with another lady’s hair.  There is a video on YouTube showing this unusual event fom a distance and it appears that it was loud, and confrontal, but not violent.  The video shows  that a lady in front row had her hair up in a bun and the person in question began to push on her hair bun with her hand in an annoying way.  That’s when the fracas broke out, turned to shouting, aand a bi of shoving but without intensity as he woman’s partner, a man staning outside the reestraining fence and not standing in the audience. The shouting grows louder with the Hispanic woman uttering her warnings (or threatsz) ultimately bringing a security detail to stop the altercation by ejecting the couple, the Hispanic woman an her companion, and escorting them out of the venue withot any resistance or protest.

The shooting began about 45 mnutes later.  The scene appeared to be theatrical, as if it had been a skit already practiced and rehearsed right down to the calling of the security detail to escort them safely out of the venue as if nothing had happened, and strange even more, was that the security officer walk out leading to the exit with his back to the couple

Multiple eyewitnesses to the scene rendered the same or a similar description.  Those 2 people were not an Arabic couple, but an Hispanic-looking couple.

Las Vegas Police Statements: -> Paradox and Contradition

Las Vegas Police Statements Present Many Disputable Facts

Neon Nettle (www.nettle.com) reported:

http://www.nnettle.com/videos/746–don-t-go-there-picked-up-on-mic-as-sheriff-asked-about-gunmans-car

“The sheriff caused a meltdown at the press conference when he suggested that Paddock “didn’t act alone”.“Look at this. You look at the weapon obtaining the different amounts of tannerite available, do you think this was all accomplished on his own, face value?”

 ‘Don’t Go There’ Picked Up On Mic As Sheriff Asked About Gunmans Car Las Vegas shooting investigation conference disected By: Daniel Newton  |@NeonNettle on 6th October 2017 @ 12.46pm © press

Ssheriff Lombard is asked a question relating to the Gunman’s Stephen Paddocks’ car.  Following the press conference for the investigation of the Las Vegas shooting, some YouTubers have discovered something unnerving in the video clip where Clark County Sheriff Lombard is asked about Stephen Paddock’s car.

When Sheriff Lombard is asked a question relating to the Gunman’s Stephen Paddocks’ car,someone allegedly whisper“Don’t go there”.

Lombard, who is visibly disturbed by the question responds “Don’t ask me to make assumptions, please”.

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The Sheriff caused a meltdown at the press conference when he suggested that Paddock “didn’t act alone”.

“Look at this. You look at the weapon obtaining the different amounts of tannerite available, do you think this was all accomplished on his own, face value?”

“You got to make the assumption he had to have help at some point, and we want to ensure that’s the answer. Maybe he’s a super guy, superhero–not a hero, super–I won’t use the word. Maybe he’s super — that was working out this out on his own, but it will be hard for me to believe that.”

South Carolina Republican, Trey Gowdy, also mirrored Lombard’s theory when the host, Martha MacCallum, he was “skeptical” that gunman Stephen Paddock, could have acted alone without the help of another person. Gowdy also predicted that he would be “proven right” that Paddocks wasn’t alone in the coming days of the investigation.”

Read more at: http://www.nnettle.com/videos/746–don-t-go-there-picked-up-on-mic-as-sheriff-asked-about-gunmans-car

With a Dubious Timeline, Now Amended … (Yet Again)
https://youtu.be/Wg6mZ80C8qc

We should also take note that the trend in the current mass media news reporting cycle of “the official narrative” appears to be following a script of casting suspicion simultaneously on ISIS while at the same time propping up authorities’ comments denying the participation of ISIS in the slaughter.

In short, they are practicing Orwellinan “New Speak” and “double talk.”

Having watched these tactics employed for more than 50 years now, this writer recognizes such “New Speak” and “double talk” as a sign typical of CIA-MK-Ultra mass mind control methods used (many times before, facilitated via CIA’s Operation Mockingbird) to create confusion, i.e., cognitive dissonance, in anyone who is listening except those who are inured and can recognize such neurolinguistic programming techniques when they are being applied to befuddle, manipulate and distort public perception of events.  This kind of reportage was used throughout the the JFK/MLK/RFK Assassinations, and the during the 911 Attacks and in days following, particularly in regard to the Shanksville crsh site and and government obscuration of how that airliner really came down.

Essential Elements of a Terrorist Attack

Motivation, intention, resources, opportunity, stealth and proximity to the victim(s) are essential for a sucessful terrorist assault. 

As to motivation, intention and resources, these afoementined terrorist oranizations all share an inveterate hatred for the Unitd  States and the American people.

In that, they are all the same, and one might justifiably suspect, engaged in a “joint venture.”

However, as to opportunity and proximity, the Zetas’ AOR (area of responsibility), i.e., their territory and their resources are the closest with easy access to the target area.

Furthermore, at the moment, some degree of desperation may be setting in as the Zetas are under relentless attack on both sides of the border by the Trump Administration, and with the prospect of “The Wall” blocking their trade routes into the US market, the Zeta’s are zealous and highly motivated to strike terror into the very hearts and minds of the Amercian people.  The pressure that President Trump is putting on the Mexian government is bearing down on them and the US Border Patrol unshackled from the tethers and restraints of the Obama Administration pro-narcoterrorist border policies, the fuutre for the Zetas looks very grim indeed.

The “Gangbusters style” of prosecution that has been the hallmark of Attorney General Jeff Sessions’ use of the Department of Justice and the FBI in dismantling “M-13” by arresting, jailing and deporting members of the vast MS-13 narcotrafficking gangs, i.e., the Zetas distribution network across the U.S. is being destroyed and that surely puts The Zetas high on this reporter’s on the suspect list.

What??? 

Not a word of “Alllahu Akbar” Heard In Las Vegas?

Has there ever been an Al-Queda or ISIS attack anywhere where the words: “Allahu Akbar” weren’t heard or squealed by a dying suicide bomber?

I can’t recall any major attacks by Jihadis when the terrorists weren’t shouting or squeaking “Allahu Akbar” (which by the way has been designated a capital crime by the Italian Government, which has called upon Italian Carabinieri (police) to shoot on sight ANYONE who utters, screams or yells out “ALLAHU AKBAR” in any public setting!

If ISIS or Al-Queda are to blame for this massacre, that would make the Las Vegas attack the first major attack in which the words “ALLAHU AKBAR” were not heard (exept on Twitter).  This point reinforces  my observation, made previously, regarding the significance of the altercation that occured in the crowd 45 minutes before the shooting started.

It is clear that the words “ALLAHU AKBAR” nor anything akin to them were heard by anyone in the crowd.  If they were, it was not and has not been reported.

I think that the reader would agree that foreknoweldge of such a dastardly event would clearly imply that an association existed between those who knew before the event and those who perpetrated the deed.

All reports describing the 2 people who were caught up in the dispute and removed from the venue were described as a “Hispanics,” namely, man and a woman about 5 feet 5 or 6 inches, who was described as the instigator of the fracas and who shouted with an Hispanic accent.

And here, we face another paradox.

ISIS has openly been claiming responsibility for the attack since Day 2 …

and paradooxically, the Las Vegas Police & FBI deny and dismiss it, but is an established FACT that ISIS’ Warned 2 American Cities of impending attacks more than a week before the Las Vegas attack and Las Vegas was shown to be an intended target in the video warning.

It is an established and ecorded fact that more than a week before the killings, ISIS issued a dire and menacing warning to Las Vegas and to the city of San Francisco via Twitter that attacks were planned for those cities in the very near future.

NBC News in Las Vegas carried the report and did an extended feature story with city and police officials commenting on the implied threats, but diminishing their importance, if not dismissing them altogether.

This writer has seen that report several times and would note for the reader, that the ISIS warning (picked up on Twitter) threatening both cities, chose to show San Francisco’s Golden Bay Bridge to represent San Francisco, and remarkably, showed a panoramic photograph of The Black  Pyramind-Madalay Bay Hotel area precisely where the massace would occur about 10 days later.

Was Las Vegas a Terrorist Co-op or an FBI “Sting Operation” Gone Wrong?

It is possible, given the networking nature of terrorist cells, that more than one terrorist organization was involved.  In fact, given the wworld wide terrorist communications in drug smuggling and arms dealings, it would not be unreasonable to believe that ISIS or Al-Queda could have contracted technical asssistance from the Zetas to conduct the operation.  Or any one of them could have been lured into a planned FBI sting in which Steven Paddack was acting as a go-between for the FBI in arranging an arms sale that would have been the basis of the “FBI Sting Operation,”

It has also been discovered that Steven Pollack journeyed overseas more than 20 times and that he visited Jordan and the United Arab Emirates,  where he could have been radicalized by ISIS or some other terrorist cell.  Or he could have been there on a covert mission for one of our intelligence agencies, either the  CIA or the FBI.  he possibility that this was another case of “Fast & Furious” gone wrong is not out of the question, and quite a reasonable explanation for “what went down” that igh in Las Vegas.

It is important to note, as we have learned in recent years, that ISIS was created and funded by the US, Israel and Jordan who set up an operational headquarters in Amman, Jordan to oversee the creation of ISIS to establish  a “SALAFIST PRINICIPALITY” (quoted from a leaked Pentagon memo of August 2014).

This so-called “Salafist Principality” is one and the same “Caliphate” of Abu-Bakir al-Bagdhadi (i.e. the ‘Salafist prince” referred to in the Pentagon memo) that the Obama and Clinton State Department wanted to use to destabilize Syria and depose Bashar Assad.

The Pentagon memo was released last year during the Presidential campaign by WikiLeaks founder, Julian Assange.

It appears from current information that Steven Pollack may have been working with the FBI or another Federal agency in an arms deal with a terrorist group and that the plan backfired badly with the terrorists discovering Pollack’s true identity.   This resulted in his execution and the carrying out of the coordinated attacks during a 15 minute period with the culprits getting away “Scott Free” and leaving Pollack’s dead body as a patsy behind (like Lee Harvey Oswald) to “take the rap.”

Robert Morningstar

New York City

October 21st, 2017

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Update

October 22st, 2017

Richard Hoagland & Robert Morningtar Discuss the Las Vegas Attacks

on October 22nd, 2017.

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for The Other Side of Midnight Broadsast October 22nd  2017:

1- Aerial view of Mandalay Bay, Las Vegas, Nevada.

I’ve corellated these 2 videos with external photos of the hotel to triangulate the postion of the shooter.

There were no broken windows in that area of the hotel.  Using the POV of the Taxi Driver as she was aligned with the corner of the roof structure that covers the drive through access road, video analsis places the shooter atop the green rooftop seen in the photo above.  Below is video proof exposing the postion of the shooter(s):

This Las Vegas Taxi Driver’s Video caught a shooter firing from the lower floor of the Mandalay Bay from a very close vantage point, i.e. pulling out of the Mandalay’s Drive-Though entrance.This is amazing…I believe that this is indisputable proof and is consonant with the 1st video I sent you earlier, i.e. the stable video shot from the hotel across the street.  I’ve put both links together below.

Between Time Mark 4:39 and 4:52, we can hear the sounds of TWO (2) separate automatic weapons, each firing at a different rate of fire, one faster than the other. The sounds coming from one of the weapons is louder (with deeper sounding report of a higher caliber weapon) and one sounds much closer than the other.

2-  Vegas Shooting Taxi Driver’s Video

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3- Video from the hotel across the street.

I have calculated the shooter’s position to be outside the hotel and shooting from a rooftop that covers the passanger drop-off area of the entrance of the hotel. 

4-  Taxi lady’s video captures unique shots that are on NO other video or audio captured at such close range.

However, there are 13 faint shots fired that she describes as “far away”.
This audio analysis proves beyond doubt that there were more than one gunman shooting and several times firing at the same time.  NO other video captures them.  So they were either INSIDE the hotel or South of Mandalay Bay.
The gun sounds are like those of an AK-47 or and M-240 belt fed machine-gun, for at least 9 of the 11 volleys.  If you were hit with that it would leave a big hole.
However, the pictures of Paddock’s room contained only AR-15s, which fire .223 caliber ammo (aka 556 mm. NATO rounds).   The majority of injuries appear to be more consistent with AR-15, not AK-47 round.


(Posted by Bizzy Vlogs)

5- Iron-Clad Forensic Acoustic Analysis Proof of Multiple Shooters  

Lag time between the arrival of the shots and the report of the weapons proves the presence of 2 shooters who were firing from different distances 400 meters and 250 meters.
 


(Posted by HighImpactFlix)

6. Rocky Palmero’s Wound Proves Shooters Were Inside the venue and Soros Financial Investments in the Las Vegas Attacks. 


(Posted by Cut2The Truth)

7-   Numerologically, the date is extremely significant:

October 1, 2017

10/01/2017 (= 2+0+1+7)
10.01/10
1/1/1
3 = TRINITY
“October First” also = “OctoberFest”
Octoberfest is a Christian derivation from an ancient pagan harvest ritual.
JFK was also shot in the midst of a Masonic temple near the banks of the Trinity River and the main hub of the MILINT radio command and control center that was directing Air Force 1’s radio transmissions was also designated “TRINITY.”

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We in this country, in this generation, are by destiny rather than choice, thewatchmen on the walls of world freedom. 

We ask, therefore, that we may be worthy of our power and responsibility, that we may exercise our strength with wisdom and restraint, and that we may achieve in our time and for all time the ancient vision of peace on earth, goodwill toward men …

That must always be our goal and the righteousness of our cause must always underlie our strength.

For as was written long ago: 

 ‘Except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.’”

 John Fitzgerald Kennedy

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Robert Morningstar is a civilian intelligence analyst, investigative journalist and psychotherapist, living in New York City.

Robert is a specialist in photo interpretation, geometric analysis and computer imaging. Robert Morningstar is a graduate of Power Memorial Academy and was a New York State Regents Scholar (1967-72) at Fordham University where he received a degree in psychology.  While at Fordham University, in 1969, Robert participated as a research fellow in a US Navy-sponsored program to develop Artificial Intelligence

Robert Morningstar is a FAA-licensed private pilot and Instrument Ground Instructor and has studied the paranormal and UFOs for over 50 years and published many research articles on the Internet, exposing government cover-up and deception applied in the JFK Assassination.

Robert has written extensively to expose CIA, FBI, and NASA’s use of “Disinformation Technology” to suppress evidence in the JFK Assassination and suppressing proof of an extraterrestrial presence on on the Moon.

Robert is currently the Publisher & Editor of UFO Digest, which exposes the real nature and menace of the UFO phenomenon and the threat its cover-up poses to our constitutional liberties.

Websites:

www.UFODigest.Com 

http://www.UFO Spotlight.Wordpress.com

www.facebook.com/robert.morningstar.12

THREE OF MY ENCOUNTERS: Bigfoot, Reptilians & MIBs (Men In Black)

THREE OF MY ENCOUNTERS

By Cherry Hinkle

 Bigfoot Encounter in the California Forest

I must admit I did experience a Bigfoot in the forest in northern California back in 1977, but I rarely want to talk about it because I was not supposed to be there anyway. I had been driving all day and had traveled by any side roads that were not highways. That made the trip from Lake Tahoe, Nevada to a California point that was in the northern part of the state. I was in the northern rugged mountains of that state, and deep inside a vast forest and beside a beautiful mountain river. There was nothing to see but mature trees and shrubs from all directions. Imagine a forest so vast it reminds me of huge waves of deep green trees – or like an Ocean of trees, nothing to see but endless tree covered mountains.

It must have been nearly late evening, but since it was summer, there was still a lingering hint of light in the sky. There was no way to hide my fatigue if someone found me, and I knew I was too tired to drive on to the next town because I was in need of a few hours of sleep, at least that my mood at exact at that time, too tired to explore, and too tired to open my cooler and eat a piece of fruit. I could only think of rest and how good the sleeping bag would feel right now.

I am usually careful and always abide by the laws of the land and do not knowingly break any laws or rules posted by the roads. I guess that night I didn’t care that I ignored the sign that said ‘no overnight camping,’ but that evening I just pulled into the very wide area. There must have been enough space to park 50 or 60 cars in that area, but I was alone when I pulled the car close to the river. It was a beautiful area, trees, smooth dirt roads, lots of beach-like sand beside the cold water in the wide river. Some of the beautiful trees grew so close to the water they provided a lot of shade that part of the river. The parking area if clear of debris, just tall Ponderosa trees and a few sparse boulders here and there near the river. If wanted to, I could have parked much closer to the river and I suspect I could have open the driver’s door and cool my feet in the cold water of the brisk water. But I parked about 10 to 12 feet from the water edge. I just wanted to rest, not swim or cool my feet.

I had a vague plan in mind that I’d just sleep for a three or four hours and then head up into Oregon, it couldn’t be more than an hour’s drive at the time, with me being so tired that idea sounded great.

I think it would be a good idea that I tell you about my car at this point. Back in the late 1970s my car was a station wagon and this car had the back seat folded down flat and had deep a foam pad under my sleeping bag and pillows. No one could be more comfortable that me than the cozy roomy area I fashioned for this planned long road trip. I even had hanging lantern type lights so I could read a little if I wanted to – but I used the lantern mostly to read the local maps to find the back roads and avoid the highways and freeways, it is a wonderful way to enjoy a leisure trip.

Before I left home that summer, I had designed blackout curtains in the back of my car, lots of pillows, and plenty of extra blankets to give me a cozy spot to sleep, safe inside the locked car. The crisp night air would drift under and over the curtains and it sure made sleeping a pleasure. Too, I had curtains on both sides and the back window, and between the front seat and the back the area was very private, so at night no one could look into my sleeping area. I felt comfortable and very safe back there.

On the night I encountered the gargantuan creature known as Bigfoot, I had a few items I needed to do before decided to sleep. I settled in the sleeping bag, plumped up my pillows, turned on the lantern for a few minutes to check the map. I looked for the next town on the map, making sure the route I’d follow in the wee hours of the morning was clear in my mind.

I had both the back side windows open about an inch or so, and the smell of the cool night breeze hinted of aged pine and maybe the scent of brisk cold water babbling along the river, I could hear the water splashing on the rocks a few feet from my car. It was so tranquil and peaceful to be there in the mountains, enjoying the fresh mountain air, so cool, so fresh – it was wonderful – until the sickening smell of skunk-like odor hit me.

It was also about that time I became aware of the well-defined sound of heavy footsteps slowly approaching. The steps sounded overly heavy and about 60 feet away. Judging from the sound, the steps were in front of my car, and near the river. The heard the distinct sound of brittle leaves crushed and the sounds of branches snapping under his feet as he approached my car. The clear and vivid sounds became closer and my heart started to pound in my ears. I listened carefully – holding my breath – when I realized he was sneaking up on me, very slowly, several seconds between each step. There is no way I could be mistaken on this; I could clearly hear his approach getting closer and closer! I sure didn’t like that idea one bit and I knew I might be in serious trouble. I felt my mouth getting dry and longed to drink deep from my canteen, but resisted that urge. I quickly turned off the lantern and fumbled around for a weapon I could use if I needed it, I found my car jack on right side of the car. Meanwhile the stench of the powerful odor got stronger with each step he got closer.

The smell was repulsive, and nothing you want to smell twice in your lifetime. This odor was overpoweringly strong and unpleasant, similar to a skunk. Not only the stench was very unpleasant, I kept thinking that the smell it’s self created a wave of fear. All these notions were in my mind as I lay there getting thirsty and afraid in the cool night air. I tried to allow reasoning take over and consider the idea but the thought refuses to believe this is not happening, because I love being outside, love the dark, the forest up in these mountains is dense and so beautiful I never fear the wonder of the forest at night. But this night, I felt a clear sense of sharp fear and an unreasoning fear that goes against everything I believe and felt all my life. I was never afraid at night in the forest and the sound of steps outside my window – they never bother me in the past, so I thought “this bad odor is creating the fear I feel.”

My normal methods to overcome fear refused or ignored and that night my apprehensive tactics did not win the battle. I knew had to escape and avoid the sound of the determined humanoid that was approaching my car! I pulled my keys out my jeans pocket, my fingers found the ignition key in the dark car and grabbed the curtains between the front the seat and ripped the curtains open fast, I quickly slid into the driver’s wheel position and started the car. My hands froze on the steering wheel, locked in position and ready to take off in a cloud of dust – but I couldn’t move. My eyes witnessed the spectacle of a huge Bigfoot standing beside the right front fender. My eyes too felt frozen in place, taking in the sight of too big non-human humanoid standing only inches from my car.

When I say he was huge you can really trust me on this one – he must have been 8 to 9 feet tall, and his body was covered with thick long fur on his very broad shoulders and face, I could see his wide chest, be was built like a powerful gorilla, with one hand he put his left hand on his chest and he looked like he was about to put his right hand on the fender of the car. In the light of the moon above I could see him clearly. I turned on the headlights, and I could see the auburn fur in the reflection of the headlights. He was so tall I couldn’t see all of his face, just his angular jaw and part of his wide dark lips.

All of this I saw it clear as a bell in the clear night, it takes a long time to describe all of it, but at the time it happened, it took only seconds, and I turned and looked once again at the smelly creature standing beside my car fender – and the overpowering fear hit the pit of my stomach. Meanwhile, I kept thinking this fear is not real, I am never afraid with animals, people, aliens – why do I fear this time? But the fear won, and I pulled the transmission gears into drive, stomped on the gas, and left the side if the river and the amazing Bigfoot still standing in place.

Sometimes I contemplate that amazing night, wondering why the fear was so unstoppable. Other times I wonder what might have happened if I conquered my fear and stayed beside that river. Would I be now one of the few humans that communicated with a Bigfoot? Or would I just be just another missing woman, another lady that the authorities assume I got lost in the forest? I’ll never know for sure because that night I didn’t stop my car until I found a town with street lights. I sat filled with fear, and I parked under the street light, and stayed in that position for another hour until the sun came up.

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Reptilian Encounter in the Nevada Desert

By Cherry Hinkle

Henderson Nevada

The city of Las Vegas and well-known Las Vegas Strip with is their glittering casinos, as well as the communities of North Las Vegas and Henderson, fills this crowded desert Nevada valley.

Black Mountain looms over the desert community of Henderson, situated on the east slopes of the valley. That dark mountain is the home of many television towers and other towers on the top. It is the home of mines and caves that pock the sides of Black Mountain.
Today, there are businesses and homes, and a freeway that cut into the slopes of that mountain, but in the middle of the 1970’s just open desert from the middle of town to the mountain. More open undisturbed miles of desert until sparkling Las Vegas. With the building boom, homes and businesses crowd the once open desert.

In 1977, every kid in town knew the rules – do not climb or play on that mountain. All parents understood of the constant danger of the deep open mines and caves, but danger lures the younger set, and several deaths occurred on the slopes of Black Mountain.
It was on a pleasant day, and my thirteen-year-old son Marc and his friend Harry, roamed in the empty desert between my house, and the forbidden Black Mountain. Being adventurous boys, the chance to explore a cave and carry back a rock or two, and a lifetime of memories is enough to break the rules.

They hiked maybe the scant one mile across the desert and climbed the little hills in front of Black Mountain. On the backside of one of the little hills, Marc and Harry located a cave. They had to squirm into the narrow opening, and belly crawl through the cave to the larger room and turned on their small pocket flashlights. They saw a circular room roughly nine feet across. Near the back wall, they spotted a large deeper hole. They found several large branches that someone had dragged a couple large branches about a mile from closest tree, and tossed the branches into the hole creating a makeshift ladder to climb down into the lower pit.

The pit was roomy, with a short annex. Occasional debris littered the rocky floor, like a tin can or two, a battered teen magazine perched on a small outcrop of rock that served as shelf. The boys explored to main cave, then turned their attention to the short tunnel or annex.
Sounds carry in a cave, and the walls slightly vibrate if a loud voice reverberates throughout the small room. It was then, that the boys heard the sounds of a voices and maybe the distance humming of machines. Intrigued by the thought of they were mining nearby, the boys went a deeper into the tunnel. On the far end, they found a rusty metal door, and near the door a strange metal rod. The one-foot rod was lightweight and resembled aluminum, with a cap on one end and a few strange engravings on one side.

Marc weaved the rod in the belt loops of his jeans, focused the beam of his flashlight on the door, and tried the doorknob. He discovered a strong bolt secured the door from the reverse side. Harry shook the doorknob and pounded on it a few times. Startled, the boys heard the sound or guttural harsh voices talking, and the certain sound of approaching footsteps. They suddenly felt a wave of fear, knowing they were inside a forbidden cave, weaponless, and an angry animalistic growling voice attempted to open to the door any second.

Marc, the taller of the two, pushed Harry up the makeshift ladder and scrambled up the wood branch to the upper level of the cave. They heard the metal door clank and squeak loudly as the door it opened. The boys crawled as quickly through the narrow tunnel, and outside, the stood up and ran about the distance of a city block away from the cave entrance. They laughed at their dirty hands and faces, relieved the escaped from and the unknown man with harsh voices in the cave. They looked at the strangely engraved rod, trying to figure out what language might include circles, ovals, swirls and triangles.

Without a warning, they heard a loud threatening growl. Harry and Marc looked back at the cave entrance and to their horrified eyes; they watched as a very large greenish humanoid struggled to force his big body out of narrow cave. The boys screamed and started running down the slope of the hill, running top speed! They didn’t look back until they were near my back yard. They slowed down, breathing hard and glanced back to the mountain.

To their shock and fear, the huge humanoid was trotting towards them! They started screaming again put on a burst of speed and ran into the house; Marc locked the door screaming “MOM! MOM! Help us Mom! He’s going to get us!” Alarmed, I ran into family room, and both boys threw their arms around me, crying. They both were shaking, not just their hands, but also their entire body shook! Wet tears left muddy tracks across their cheeks. Marc begged, “Don’t open the door Mom, he going to get us!”

Meanwhile, Harry added, “He is big, and looks mean! Don’t open that door – please, please, don’t open that door!” Instantly I was furious with the man that generated such terror these young boys! At thirteen, boys are usually trying to impress everyone how brave they can be, so I know it took a lot of nerve to admit that much fear.

“Boys, you go get a drink of water and let me go talk to this man,” I suggested, but they tightened their grip on me, screaming “NO, NO, NO! That guy will kill you! He is not a man! Don’t go out there Mom!”

I managed to coax one arm free from each boy. I looked into their worried eyes. “Boys – nobody is going to kill anybody, and you know I won’t allow anyone hurt you! Now – what do you mean he is not a man? It’s a woman that is threatening you?”

“No Mom, it’s a man, sort of, he looks like a man, but his face looks like a snake or YEAH, like a lizardman! He’s ugly and he doesn’t wear anything. He’s naked, except a wide belt with stuff on it.”

I stared at my son, imagining some teenager wearing a Halloween costume. I laughed a little, and said, “Boys, it was just someone playing a joke on you!”
Both boys started protesting again, both talking at the same time. I could hear the panic in their voices rising again, and finally Harry said, “That guy couldn’t be wear any costume, he could barely squeeze himself out of the cave, he would have ripped he costume into pieces!”

“What cave? Did you go boys up on Black Mountain even when you knew the danger?” I asked.

“Mom – listen to me, it was a lizardman and he was naked. I’ve never seen a costume that shows EVERYTHING, he was naked Mom, and it was NOT a costume! You know what I mean Mom?”

With difficulty, I untangled myself from the tight grip boys, and looked out the window. I peered carefully out the widow expecting the spectacle of a lizardman, but nothing moved, not a child, not a man and no lizardman. I reassured the boys the danger is in the past and the man was long gone.

It was at that point, I noticed Marc was holding a strange metal rod. “What do you have in your hand son?” Marc glanced at the rod and threw it on the floor as if it would burn his hand. I leaned to pick it up but Harry grabbed my arm, warning it was dangerous, maybe a weapon. I picked it up reminding them they carried it from the mountain safely all that time, so it couldn’t be too dangerous.

The rod was approximate one and a half inch across, maybe a foot long with a slight indentation at one end and a plain gray cap on the other. I looked at the bizarre symbols engraved in a three-inch section of the rod. It was just symbols, from spirals, circles of different sizes, a few triangles, and a few unknown symbols. There were no levers or buttons, and the cap at the end didn’t seem to move. The rod, with its professionally created symbols and smooth to the touch, I knew it was not a toy, but nothing I recognized.

It was late afternoon, and the long shadows cast ominous shapes in the yard, I knew Harry was still too nervous to walk home alone. Marc and I walked the distance of two houses and made sure he was safe inside before we walked home.

That night, Marc was still nervous, peeking out the curtains often, expecting the worse. Marc played Scrabble with his sisters, anything to keep his mind busy. Near midnight, we went to bed.

It must have been around two in the morning when Marc shook me whispering harshly that someone is trying to get into his bedroom window. I hoped it was just a nightmare, or his nerves were still on edge. Quietly we slipped into his bedroom and listened to the sounds of scraping at the window edge! He was not mistaken – in the light of the moon I could make out the silhouette head and shoulders of a man.

I was alone with my four kids, no husband to protect us, so I grabbed my flashlight; suddenly tossed the curtains open to face the man. There was a glare from the flashlight on the window, but past glare that I could clearly see a large head with ridges on the top, other ridges on his cheekbones, and the glow of golden eyes. Marc and I stood still, unmoving, both fear and shock kept us frozen. The lizardman didn’t move either, his hand still poised in his attempt pry the window open. He hand was large, with webbed rough, gnarly looking fingers, with powerful claws.

After a couple minutes, not seconds, but long agonized minutes with our hearts pounding I knew I had to do something. One hand still holding the flashlight beam on his face and my eyes still locked into those golden eyes, I fumbled around in the dark with my other hand, hoping to find something to use as a weapon, is needed. He glanced at my hand, looked back into my eyes. He turned his head a little, as if he was asking a questioning, he slightly opened his lipless lips, displaying four of his pointed teeth, and suddenly he turned and ran off into the desert.

Marc suddenly closed the curtains, grabbed my hand and led my shaking legs to the edge of his bed. We sat there for a few silent minutes. We just sat there, trying to comprehend the incredible event, with little success. We started talking at the same time, and started checking the doors and windows repeatedly. His sisters were completely awake by then, and we all talked all night, going from windows to doors until full sunlight.

Later in the morning, we decided the reason the lizardman was breaking in the house was to reclaim that metal rod. Marc and I hiked back to the cave and placed the strange rod beside the cave entrance.
The lizardman never again attempted to enter this house, and for that, I am relieved.

After a few days, I went outside and looked at that window. It was then that I found that that bottom edge of that window is close to six feet high from the ground. It was a shock to realize the lizardman must have been very tall, over seven feet tall! Inside the windows are high, but about five feet high, from outside there is no way no one could look through this window – unless they were extremely tall.

This event is real. “Harry” is not the real name, but since I have been unable to locate him and ask permission, I used a pseudo name. Marc’s name is real, and he was my only son. Marc died in 1999. I still live in sight of Black Mountain. People living close to that mountain sometimes report underground rumbling at night when it is quiet. UFOs are often seen and photographed over Black Mountain, that shouldn’t be too surprising; we live not far from Area 51 in Nevada.

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THE MEN-IN-BLACK ABDUCTED ME FROM MY HOSPITAL ROOM
By Cherry Hinkle

(To understand the “why and where” I offer this pre-information regarding what happened in this case. *Thanks.*) {In 1978 I was in a car accident that torn the muscles in my back, it left me in a rigid brace back and rigid neck brace, (I wore the back brace for over 11 years) and I suffered headaches from that car wreck. I moved from Las Vegas Nevada to Colorado in September 1979. In December 1979, Tom Castello visited me in Colorado and talked to me about the infamous Dulce Base. In January 1980 my doctor suggested I should have an angiogram to find out why I had these headaches. (Meanwhile, the CIA, FBI and other groups visited my home, many times, looking for Tom Castello.) I agreed to take this medical test, but the small Colorado town I lived in didn’t have a medical facility, he suggested to a different town in a different state, roughly 80 miles away. In early February 1980 I scheduled an appointment for that medical test. And now you can understand the following events.}
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Abducted from my hospital room? I would have laughed if someone suggested it might happen… the thought is ludicrous, things like that never happen in federally owned hospitals, right? But don’t laugh yet – because sometimes Fate gives you a big shock, a wake-up call. Looking back wondering could I have prevented the horrid experience of three men abducting me from my hospital room in the middle of the night. Let me go back and attempt to explain what happened.

My Colorado doctor promised it would be no big deal, a simple angiogram to determine why I had severe headaches; it was hardly more than a Cat-Scan or X-Ray of my brain, a simple one hour medical procedure. My doctor suggested it would be best if I would agree to an overnight stay in the hospital because they want the medical test at 6am, and I lived over 80 miles away, in a different state.

I checked into the hospital at 9pm. At bedtime took the little white pill the nurse gave me after she assured me it would allow me to sleep well, and the doctor wanted me rested for the angiogram in the morning.

I don’t how long I’d been sleeping when I felt the palm of man’s hand firmly over my mouth. I struggled to clear the sleep from my mind and to see the thin face of the man leaning over my face. I grabbed his hand, trying to pull his hand off my mouth, but he was strong and determined to keep me from crying out. “If I remove my hand off your mouth will remain silent?” the man asked. Looking into his dark sunglasses I silently nodded my yes. I was a small trim five foot woman, so it was easy for the two other men to lift me off my bed and strapped me firmly on a gurney, and draped me with sheets. The third warned me to remain silent, if I wanted to survive. The man dressed in black had a large dark wool scarf wrapped over his other hand, and I suspected a weapon was wrapped in that scarf. I saw no one in the halls; it was if the entire hospital was sleeping, except us.

I didn’t say a word to the men, just stared up at the other two men dressed in hospital scrubs, trying to use will power my mind to remember their faces, and the third – tall gaunt man wearing a black suit, dark sunglasses, black necktie and matching hat. He looked like character from a bad 1940s detective movie. But this was the wrong era, today it was the second month of 1980 – and this man looks out of place. The three men rolled my gurney down the hall to the elevator. Inside the large hospital elevator I felt the surge as we dropped several floors.

We entered a cavernous room that looked like a storage area for mixture of medical equipment; I saw three X-ray tables, and four MRI machines and other medical equipment I didn’t recognize. I watched nervously as we approached the last MRI machine, it was a little wider and higher than the others, and I noticed someone had moved the table to the left, allowing the gurney – and me – to be push through the round entrance of MRI machine. The men ducked to enter the MRI machine. To my bewilderment, the wall opened and the three men pushed me through the door into a well lighted hall, and the wall silently closed again.

It was then I felt the sting of an injection needle in my left arm and my heart started racing. My mind struggled to remain awake, and rejected the concept of forced to sleep. I tried to fight off the injection’s solution, it was a powerful drug, almost instantly I felt a little confused and dazed, and in a few seconds more I felt as if I was floating, in my mind I thought the hospital walls were melting around me. My last conscious thought was the Men-In-Black were abducting me from this hospital! God help me, what did I do to deserve being this abduction? And then the nothingness of drugged sleep.

I remember waking up slowly, keeping my eyes closed, calmly listening to the rhythmic clicking of the wheels down the very long underground passage; I opened my eyes and watched as dim overhead lights clicked in and out of view in the narrow corridor ceiling. “What a strange dream,” I thought “I am dreaming of a tunnel, how odd.”

“She’s awaking up Doc, want me to put her back under?” one of men in hospital garb asked.

“No, we are almost there,” the MIB agent mumbled.

In the few seconds it took to utter those few words, I was fully awake and frightened – and I knew this was no dream! I felt the coldness of fear in my chest, and I turned my head to my right, to see the MIB agent tautly sitting beside me. I noticed his sallow skin, the prominent boniness of his face, the hollowed wide cheeks, and the jet-black hair jutting from under his hat, I knew he wore a bad toupee. The two men in hospital scubs looked average in size; the both wore cropped brown hair, and were muscular in build. One man had small brown eyes that were too close to his nose; the others had blue eyes, and had a surgical scar at the base of his throat. Now that I remember the abduction, I wanted to escape the three men sitting only inches away, but I remained strapped down, going underground in a tunnel and only God knows where I’d end up. I didn’t know how long I slept from that injection; it could have been minutes or hours. I turned my head and looked at the 1940s man, “Please, where am I? Where are you taking me?”

I looked at the MIB expecting a response, but said nothing in return; never even indicated he heard my question; he just totally ignored me, as if I didn’t exist.

I took a deep breath and struggled with the braided canvas-like restraint, hoping I could wiggle my hands free, but the straps were sturdy, I had no chance I could escape. I felt the wheels of the electric cart start slowing down, and to my horror I watched a huge grotesque humanoid approach the cart. He wore a copper colored uniform, but just past his wide shoulders I noticed what looked like tan wet leather wings, with thick veins in sight. In shock I couldn’t speak, but just stared at the reptilian face with ridges on his cheekbones, forehead and skull.

“Is this one you told me about Doc? Isn’t she the one from Nevada – the female that have seen our race before?” the reptilian man asked. His voice was raspy and rumbling, with accent was heavy from an unknown language. I couldn’t believe he was so large, it is just a guess but I think he must have been nearly eight feet tall with a barrel chest. He was right, three years ago; in 1977 my son and his friend and I witnessed a reptilian in Nevada.

“She’s the one. I knew you’d want to see this one, she’s been a major headache for us for weeks,” 1940s man replied and took off his dark glasses, cleaning the glass with his handkerchief. He looked up at me and I looked directly into his eyes, suddenly I felt a wave of fear because his entire eyes were black, with no white parts of his eyes, not one section of his large eyes that didn’t gleam a jet black. I don’t know what frightened me more – the reptilian giant or those solid black eyes. The MIB called ‘Doc’ helped me off the gurney and escorted me into a roomy but Spartan room, the furniture was plain, two maple wood library tables, one elongated wood box and a half dozen of padded brown office chairs. Not one picture or documents added interest to the plain drab rock walls, but beige tiles on the floor sparkled from a recent coat of wax, I considered that floor was the most decorative part of the room.

During the long dreary hours I spent in that underground facility, they placed photographs and images and objects on the table in front of me, they never explained why they wanted me to see these items, and they didn’t request comments regarding them. Later, they asked questions about Tom Castello, questions about my family, my children, my sibling and my parents, I never really answered those questions about my family, they already knew all about them. They seemed more interested in intimidating me with comments like rather or not I wanted to survive these questions. To this day, I am not allowed discuss the details regarding the threats or how they threatened me, but I can confirm I was in fear for my life. They warned me to never reveal the details of these questions, or discuss the other bizarre events I witnessed inside that facility. I am not at liberty to confirm or deny the name of the underground facility. They warned me that either I will sign a document they had already prepared for me, or I will never again see the blue skies of the surface of Earth.

I noticed the paper alleged to witnessed by “my personal physician” – at least that is what the document stated, but I do not know that “doctor,” and never met him in my life; he wasn’t even one of the three men that abducted me. The reptilian humanoid stayed in the room the entire session, but he did not question me. Once or twice men wearing the same copper uniforms glanced into the room or hesitated a few seconds at the door, but didn’t enter the room.

I was thirsty, hungry and tired, but they three men, the 1940’s man called Doc and two other MIB in suits questioned me. They were the only three people in suits, everyone else wore uniforms. I was supplied a warmer uniform rather than my thin nightgown, for that, I was grateful.

The two men in scrubs from the hospital may or may not be workers in that hospital, after they took me from the hospital room and transported me to this underground facility in a western state, I never saw them again.

These three MIB questioned me about Tom Castello, and demanded answers, sometimes they threatened to kill me, or even worse, to silence me – medically. Being maimed or tortured is enough to strike fear in your heart, I didn’t know exactly ‘how’ they meant to silence me, but before that 24 hour session ended, and I fully understood what he meant.

Being at least slightly intelligent, I offered to trade my information for their information, I didn’t really wanted any information they might have, I just said it in an effort to buy time, to find a way to get out of this abduction alive, because they were getting angry with me. I kept telling them I didn’t know anything – and they knew better. They partially agreed to trade, mostly to find out what I wanted. Without hesitation asked for the ultimate truth – the Secret of Secrets – who are the ancient gods and who are the aliens that float through Earth’s skies.

It took them about 15 minutes for them to clear the information I demanded – the UFO truth – then they carried a thick Manila envelope in his hands, the MIB said “ok, I’ve got the information in my hands, now you tell me what I want – where is Tom Castello and how do you contact him?” I looked at him, and laughed – you can be very certain he didn’t my laughter one bit.

I freely admit I was frightened, it was a faked laughter, but I didn’t want them have the satisfaction of knowing I was terrified, “Oh please, I promise you I was not born yesterday, and that is a very weak and pitiful trick. I told you I would trade for information, I didn’t say ‘you lie to me, and I’ll believe anything.’ You better get serious gentlemen, because I am not going to fall for that worn out trick.” I folded my arms against my chest and then added, “You know all about me – so you know I am natural psychic, when you tell me the truth, I will know it, and if you know try to trick me, I’ll never tell you a thing.”

The three men mumbled together quietly for a few minutes near the door of the room, but they knew I was dead serious, they knew I was born psychic and can see the colors of human aura. They knew I would know if they lie, because their aura turns the color a muddy reddish brown and the outer edges of the aura gets tinged with a sickening pea green when someone lies.

They decided to tell me – all of it, and looking back on that event, I truly wish they didn’t tell me anything. But you can’t “unheard” things you heard, once you know something, there is no way you can pretend you didn’t know. For the rest of your life you must be responsible for that knowledge.

In this case, the MIB agent just opened up and told me the ultimate horrid truth. For the next hour they talked about the horrifying truth and I felt sick to my stomach, betrayed spiritually, and angry. The more I learned, the more upset I felt. I didn’t want to hear any more, I wished I never heard it – but it is too late, know I do know. Everybody claims they want to know it all – but when you learn all of it – you wish you could go back in time and unlearn it.

Everything I thought was true facts – was dead wrong. Evil was good and good was evil, and every aspect of this life is a joke.

The MIB agent placed a bible on the table and opened one or two references in the spiritual book, offering to prove his words. I closed the book.

I wanted to escape the bitter truth – now that I learned the truth, I didn’t want to hear it. I turned on the MIB agent, lashed out like a wild animal. I slapping him, the other men grabbed me and I pushed them away, and took off running down a long hallway. I knew they’d catch me, because there is no way out, but still I felt the need to calm my mind a little. I needed to digest the disturbing information they told me. I know I asked for the ultimate truth, but I didn’t know that horrid truth, I thought it was strictly information about aliens – the secret of the aliens. I was wrong. I ran as fast as my short legs would move, but after a few minutes two men caught me from a side door, and escorted me back to back to the first room.

I was surprised when they gave me a glass of cool water and allowed me to rest for a few minutes, thinking silently. When I rested a few minutes, the man they called ‘Doc’ told me they knew how I felt, and that everybody feels that way when they learn the truth. They almost seemed sympathetic towards me. They refilled my glass of water, and let me just sit there for a few more minutes, and then they wanted Tom’s information. I looked at the MIB agent and I sipped the water, and then replied – “Look, I’m sorry but I don’t have any information about Tom. I kept telling you over and over, but you don’t want that answer.” That was a fact, they didn’t like it one bit.

Once again, they tried to warn me, to threaten me, kill me, or worse, to maim me and other frightening tactics. I stayed firm and repeating the same thing, Tom left, I haven’t seen him since early December 1979. They tried getting loud and when the more they yelled, the quieter I got, after a heated hour or so, I refused to talk at all. They injected something into my arm to force me to talk – but instead of making me talk, it made me vomit, and I still didn’t talk. They gave me “one more chance” (as they called it) I was exhausted, had nothing in my stomach except that one glass of water, and they had removed me from the hospital almost 23 hours ago. I felt the urgent need for sleep and food.

“Cherry, I can keep you here in this base, or release you try to cooperate with me,” Doc said.

“I’ve never said these words to anyone Doc, but you go straight to hell.”

“I gave you a chance – I rarely do that – but you had to be unreasonable. For the rest of your life you will regret your lost chance. You will remember this for the rest of your life Cherry, but you will never tell one about it.”

He sat in his chair staring at the floor for a few more seconds and then nodded his head, gestured to a table nearby and three men again strapped me down on a gurney again. I said nothing while they injected an amber liquid into my left arm. Once again I saw lights melting and then blackness.

I heard the sound of crisp steps walking near my bed and with an effort, I opened my eyes, I knew they returned me the hospital, and I judging from the large room with filled several beds, this must be a recovery room.

The nurse stood beside me and it was obvious she ask a question. I looked up at her and I knew she was she was speaking to me, but I couldn’t understand her words. I glanced around wondering if they MIB placed me in a foreign hospital, but nurse’s words were more than just a different language – it appeared she were uttering total gibberish. I attempted to reply to her, but I seemed to have forgotten how to speak, I was astonished. I tried a few more times, but each time all I managed to so be moan or groan, not one clear word. I could think clearly, but no words.

Using my left hand I searched around in the sheets trying to find my right hand, it was numb, and couldn’t feel it at all. I thought it had fallen asleep and was numb, but when I finally managed to pull my right hand and arm onto my chest, it felt like a heavy log. I rubbed my arm trying to coax feeling into my arm and hand, but after a few more minutes I felt a sinking fear in my heart and I knew my right arm didn’t work. The fear magnified when I attempted to move my right leg, and it didn’t respond at my efforts to turn and sit up. Quietly, desperation took over and I cried like a baby for the first time in many years. By then, I knew I had suffered a major stroke, and I know it was from the hand of the MIB.
A few hours later, after I recovered from my sudden storm of tears, I managed to pull my right leg to the edge of the bed, and I attempted to stand up and walk to the sink, it was in sight, just a few seven or eight feet away. I needed to wash my face, in hope it might clear my thoughts and the hope the little walk might do wonders, and restore my worthless right limbs. I stood up carefully, took one step and felt my body collapse to the floor. I felt like a limp ragdoll, and another wave of fear hit me when I discovered I was on the floor and had no way to get up. I inched towards the bed, hoping I could use the bed to help pull myself up and get back in bed. I tried to get up, but I couldn’t get up.

I don’t know how long I stayed laid on the floor, it felt like a long time, hoping someone would come and help me. I dozed a few times on the cold hard floor, but I could only turn flat on my back, or try to sit up, but I couldn’t get back onto the bed. I was weak, and dizzy and starting to shake from the cold floor. Finally I heard someone enter the room to bring my evening meal. He placed the tray on the table and left, in another minute or so, he and another attendant and together helped me get off the floor and into bed.

I was aware, fully aware, but couldn’t speak, and couldn’t understand anyone. I found out I wouldn’t read or write either. I remember Doc’s warning that I would regret my chance to give him the information. I knew I was in grave danger, but I couldn’t speak, couldn’t walk, and I suspected Doc was still watching me.

The next few days were just a blur, and they kept me drugged, and what was worse, they put me in a strange room, a room hidden off a broom closet. I don’t expect everyone to believe this; looking back it still horrifies me remembering that bizarre room, I can only testify that everything is 100% just as I claim it.

That hospital room looked like something from a science fiction movie, with two way cameras with a small monitor screen beside my bed and overhead rods with hand grasp levers to help me move position. I rarely saw anyone, only when meals arrived. Later, when I was able to speak and ask questions, I found out I was missing from that hospital for 23 hours, and they claimed I left during the night, without telling one. The nurses claimed they searched for me in the hospital, and after not finding me, they assumed I left. What is worse, they decided I left on my own, and were baffled when they found me in the recovery room. When they found me in the recovery room, I couldn’t say a word, and I couldn’t understand the words of the medical team. I wanted to explain I had been abducted, I no way to communicate what happened.

I stayed there nine more days, I would have been longer because the medical facility told my family I had checked out, and no one knew exactly what happened to me. My teenage son, Marc, refused to give up and kept looking for me. Even after the hospital claimed I left, Marc searched for me in every room, and finally noticed a broom closet, through the glass door window if the janitors broom supply room, Marc saw another door and on the door it claimed “private” – he entered that room and found me. Quickly, he got my things together, helped me dressed and sneaked me out of the hospital. I’m alive today because my son – at age 15, drove over 80 miles in a borrowed car and refused to believe I left the hospital willingly.

Damn near 70 Years into this UFO phenomenon

Okay, so here we are, damn near 70 years into this phenomenon and we’re still debating. It’s time to fish or cut bait. In the past 70 years we’ve gotten little or no cooperation from government and the press. Matter of fact they’ve engaged in criminal activity and unconstitutional actions since day one. That being said, it’s now time to call what is happening based on the evidence and data the PEOPLE have gathered on their own. No more BSing around and outlandish speculation or messages from the ‘Space Brothers’. We need to look at ‘actions’ and let that be the foundation for our conclusions. I call upon all the top UFOlogists to hold a meeting and put out a final assessment. I’ve been studying UFOs for over 40 years. I worked in journalism for 35 years. I’ve seen UFOs up close and always with mass sightings except once and even then it was near a heavily populated industrial complex and adjoining neighborhood. From what I’ve gathered from the more reputable UFOlogists and common folk, is the following:

Some UFOs are indeed extraterrestrial mechanisms of a wide variety of functions, i.e. space, atmospheric, aquatic engineering.

Earth and its creatures, us primarily have been experimented on by the occupants of these craft for tens of thousands of years, if not more.

The U.S. Government has been in collusion with these extraterrestrials and their artificial constructs whereby exchanges have occurred and misunderstandings that are shared only with the intelligence agencies, military/industrial complex, and high end commerce officials.

The interaction of the U.S. Government with these beings has delivered nothing to the betterment of the country nor mankind as a whole. Secrets of advanced medicine, technology are only allowed in the hands of a few who are accountable to no one and the evidence suggests screw ups of an incredible magnitude that they’re still trying to cover up to this day.

Finally, the human population of the planet is undergoing an undermining of its genetic infrastructure to accommodate these extraterrestrials or whatever you want to call them, and there’s nothing we can do to stop it as our resources of government and media will not, not ‘cannot’, cooperate in our best interest.

So I’m sure many of you can elaborate, but the bottom line is, we need to cut out the absurd speculations and just put the cards on the table once and for all.

Greg Boone