They Tricked Kennedy!

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President John F. Kennedy
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Dirty Tricks and Kennedy Assassins

By:

Steve Erdmann

Copyright, C, Steve Erdmann, 2015.
This article was originally published in UFO Digest issues March 19 through April 12, 2015.
It is printed here with permission.
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“The entire complex plan to blame Oswald for a crime that he did not commit, a crime that had even taken place when the CIA began to lay a trail that would inexorably lead to an innocent man, involved cables to Mexican police authorities, instructions from the CIA to its Mexico City assets, in the police department there to arrest and silence witness at the Cuban embassy, a citizen of Mexico, who would not accept the false CIA legend and subsequently the use of demagoguery to present a false legend to the Warren Commission as fact. Each action by the CIA, including its destruction of its own files when an inquiry began, is a building block in the case against the CIA for its part in the assassination.” (Mark Lane, Last Word, p. 285)

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(Last Word: My Indictment of the CIA in the Murder of JFK, Mark Lane, Skyhorse Publishing, www.skyhorsepublishing.com, 307 West 36th Street, 11th Floor, New York, N.Y. 10018, info@skyhorsepublishing.com, 2011, 300 pages, $24.95.)

Such is a nutshell-review of the late Mark Lane’s conclusion of a lifetime investigation into the reasons and facts behind the November 22, 1963 assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

Mark Lane was an attorney and also an author of nine books, including Rush to Judgment and Plausible Denial.

Lane painstakingly devotes chapters to the analysis of the various scenarios constituting a case against the CIA and its methods to destroy and control the public.

FROM MAUSERS TO CIA ASSETS

In a cavalcade of topics, Mark Lane reviews arguments and scenes from the assassination. I will selectively choose only a few, leaving many other portions for the reader’s perusal.

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# The Jean Hill testimony about the four to six shots she heard in the Dallas Dealey Plaza: “…shots had come from behind a wooden fence on the grassy knoll.” Arlen Specter, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, also the author of the infamous “single-bullet-theory,” confronted Jean Hill in about the same way that Specter questioned Anita F. Hill in the Clarence Thomas hearings. “She said that Specter did everything possible to force her to state that she had heard only three shots and that none of them came from the grassy knoll. Jean told me that Specter said that he would release the rumor that she had an extramarital affair and that in the end, she would end up looking as if she was crazy, ‘just as Oswald’s mother had.’ She said that he wanted her to accept the conclusions that he had reached before he met her.” Jean Hill added: “He was so mean I could hardly believe it.”

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Witness Jean Hill Pointing to JFK Line of Fire

Such temperaments will be seen throughout JFK assassination debates and groups, often not only as a sign of narcissism (and other psychological aberrations), but also possibly a sign of the extent of the CIA psyops and psywar issued by that agency and its infiltration into the media and the lives of Americans.

# The finding of the 7.65 German Mauser on the sixth floor of the Texas Book Depository building on November 22, 1963. Deputy Constable Seymour Weitzman made a sworn statement describing the Mauser, including its 4/18 telescopic sight. Lieutenant J.C. Day also examined the weapon. The next day, the Mauser turned into an Italian Mannlicher-Carcano 6.5. “I wondered how anyone who had looked at that weapon could have identified it differently.” Says Lane, “The Italian rifle became part of the foundation upon which the government built its case, but as it turns out it, too, became suspect.”

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# Lane quotes Tip O’Neill, the former speaker of the house, as to how the FBI intimidated him to change his testimony that he heard two shots that came behind the knoll fence. “I told the FBI what I had heard, but they said it couldn’t have happened that way and that I must have been imagining things,” said O’Neill, “so I testified the way they wanted me to.”

# Lane outlines interesting facts about witness Acquilla Clemons: Clemons was an eyewitness to the murder of Dallas police officer J.D. Tippit; she said that two men had been involved in the murder, one was “kind of heavy” and the other “was tall and then thin and wore light Khaki trousers and a white shirt.” When shown a picture of Oswald, Miss Clemons said that Oswald was not one of the two men she had seen.  Clemons said that one man fired at Tippit, the other waved to his partner and they both “ran from the scene in opposite directions.”  Lane said that Clemons’ comments were “corroborated by other witnesses who saw men running from the scene and who stated that Oswald was not one of them.”  

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Photos of the Tippit Shooting Crime Scene

Clemons said she had been threatened by two men who said they worked for the Dallas Police Department “and ordered her not to talk.” They wore guns and threatened that if she talked to anyone she “might get hurt” if she talked to the Warren Commission, she “might get killed.”    

The Warren Commission dismissed her claims as “speculation and rumor.” The Commission claimed, says Lane, “…such a woman did not exist.”  Lane testified about Clemons in July 1964. During September 1964, Dorothy Kilgallen conducted an additional intervention.

“She was a courageous woman who came forward, to tell the truth about what she witnessed,” says Lane, “although her life had been threatened.”  (p. 27)

A METHOD TO SUPPRESS THEM

Lane talks about the life and, later, death of Dorothy Kilgallen, a columnist for the New York Journal-American (Dorothy had been actively investigating the Kennedy assassination and obtained “a copy of Jack Ruby’s testimony, the classified top secret” files); both, Dorothy and Mark Lane, exchanged information on the topic.

“She knew that the FBI had focused its legions upon our work,” says Lane. “She wrote in the JournalAmerican (that) the FBI ‘might have been more profitably employed in probing the facts of the case rather than how I got them.’ Of course, it was not the facts that the FBI sought – it was instead a method to suppress them.” 

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It is believed Dorothy Kilgallen was Assassinated

https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/death4.htm

Following Dorothy’s interview with Jack Ruby in 1965, she told Florence Smith, and other friends, that she was about to “break the case wide open.” She gave her notes to Smith. On November 18, 1965, Dorothy died; two days later, Florence died of a cerebral hemorrhage. All of the notes could not be located. Researcher Richard Kollmar told Lane “that Dorothy had died because of her efforts to investigate the assassination.” Kollmar refused to talk any further. Unfortunately, in 1971 Kollmar committed suicide. Biographer and Editor Lee Israel examined all her available evidence on Kilgallon. “She concluded that Dorothy had been murdered,” says Lane.

ROY CRAIG

Deputy Sheriff Roger D. Craig’s observations on November 22 proved to be extremely important: 1) He interviewed Arnold Rowland and his wife who saw two men on the sixth floor of the book depository building, one with a rifle and telescopic sight. 2) He was about eight feet from Deputy Sheriff Eugene Bloom when the German Mauser was found, followed by Dallas Police Captain Will Fritz doing an official police identification. The CIA’s Top Secret memo still listed the rifle (on November 25, 1963) as a German Mauser and not an Italian-Mannlicher-Carcano; says Lane: “Apparently the interagency coordination was imperfect.”

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Roger Craig Disputed the Weapons Found in the Depository

Craig also said that he witnessed Oswald traveling from behind the book depository building to a light-colored station wagon with one driver, after about fifteen minutes after the gunfire started. The station wagon was speculated as to belonging to Ruth Paine (a former landlord and a lady, possibly unbeknownst to Oswald, as having CIA connections…SE).

“That fifteen-minute delay,” says Lane, “demonstrated that the Commission’s version was inaccurate.”

Craig was fired from the Sheriff’s Department in 1967 because of his discourse about the assassination. When later participating in the Garrison trial of Clay Shaw “a sniper fired a shot that grazed his head.” During some buzz about a possible Congressional investigation, another shot was fired at him. “Later, the car that Craig was driving was forced off the road by two men in a vehicle parked across the highway,” says Lane. “He was seriously injured and hospitalized for one year with a broken back, broken leg, and other injuries.”  (p. 203)

On May 15, 1975, Craig was shot to death with a rifle. Craig’s good friend Penn Jones, Jr., said that Craig did not own a rifle, and he seriously doubted that “Craig had killed himself.”

CIA MEDIA CONTROL

Lane spends considerable time telling about the difficulties of various witnesses associated with the Kennedy assassination, such as Lisa Howard, and investigators, such as District Attorney of New Orleans Jim Garrison, but Lane also displays the various tactics that the CIA used in what could be termed as “psyops.”

“This is the method now employed,” says Lane. “An independent publication is chosen to mask the source. A CIA puppet is placed there and given an impressive title. The CIA then provides the propaganda. It appears as an independent concept when published…then cites the ‘independent’ writer and the ‘independent’ publication as the source as it spreads its false allegations throughout the world. In the intelligence world, some refer to this as sheep-dipping. Their wolf had been dipped into a sheep’s bath and came up smelling quite neutral.”

Lane examines the various documents and cases concerning CIA manipulation and machinations. Lane cautiously displays the antics of the CIA in what has become known assassination-related “programs” around the globe. He outlines the various Mind Control experiments of CIA operatives such as Dr. Paul Hoch and Sidney Gottlieb. One such CIA writer-asset was Max Holland who wrote, often in cryptic and psychologically barbed attacks, for Nation Magazine, New York Times Magazine and numerous critiques challenging proven and known facts in the Kennedy assassination.

An example is Holland’s parading Dallas Dealey Plaza witness Amos L. Euins as a “precise” witness, yet, as Lane points out, Euins couldn’t decide if he saw “a colored man” or a “white man” in the Book Depository window on November 22. Euins later told Arlen Specter that “I didn’t get to see him.” Sergeant D. V. Harkness of the Dallas Police Department said that Euins told him the shots came from the “fifth floor of the Texas School Depository,” not the sixth-floor sixth floor.

Holland likewise made one such “planted” remark about fellow CIA operative (the late Garrison suspect) Clay Shaw that Shaw died “prematurely.”   Lane points out that such a diagnosis was not possible as Shaw’s attorney did not allow an autopsy or his notifying the New Orleans’s Coroner’s Office.

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Journalist Max Holland Defended the Warren Commission

Holland likewise used “gimmick” language, says Lane, in calling the Garrison prosecution of Shaw “a farce and without basis.” Yet, as Lane points out, “the House Select Committee on Assassination found that evidence developed by Jim Garrison uncovered Kennedy assassination connections between David Ferrie, a suspect in the assassination of President Kennedy, and Clay Shaw and Lee Harvey Oswald.”

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Unfortunately, the CIA’s controlling of the public’s press is child’s play, as Lane reveals, to some other government naughtiness.

STERILE, PERSONALIZED MURDER PROGRAM

Lane looks into the CIA hand print of assassination around the globe. The Phoenix Program entailed the murder of 26,369 South Vietnamese while under CIA control. Scholars who studied the program stated that between August 1968 and June 1971, the CIA killed 40,000 civilians.

“Others who read the firsthand reports stated that the program was aimed at civilians, not Army personnel and that those who approached on the lists utilized by the CIA,” says Lane, “were tortured, imprisoned without trial, or killed without trial.” (p. 252)

Barton Osborn, a former Phoenix Operation Case Officer, testified before a congressional committee that the program was a “sterile, depersonalized murder program.”

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Equally disturbing are the facts that Lane uncovers about the CIA’s MKULTRA, Project Bluebird, and the Special Operations Division of the Technical Service’s experiments in German “Mind Kontrolle.” A number of individuals were involved in rather predatory experiments:

# There were control-experiments by CIA operative Sidney Gottlieb of the Technical Service Division (TSS) for “research to develop a capability in the covert use of biological and chemical materials.” Others in the program were Major General William Creasy, George Hunter White, and Harold Isbell. 

# There was also experiments with LSD in the 1950’s that led victims such as Dr. Frank Olson, Stanley Glickman, Harold Blauer, Gail Kastner, and James Stanley, to their dire health or death. Theodore John Kaczynski, the Unabomber, became a victim of “the MKULTRA mind-altering program.” (pp. 266, 267)

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Ted Kaczynski: a Product of Government Mind Experiments
LONG LIST OF ANTICS

Lane’s book is a rich plethora of mysterious topics: David Atlee Phillips and the CIA in Mexico City; Secret Service foul-ups in the Kennedy motorcade; Secret coordinate with the CIA and FBI censoring of information (p. 235); the CIA Service agent Abraham Bolden’s testimony; anti-conspiratorialist Vincent Bugliosi’s “gigantic” attempt to rewrite history; the phony and mysterious secret service agents at the grassy knoll wooden fence as witnessed by Dallas police officer Joe Marshall Smith; Robert G. Blakey’s congressional committee that opted to cooperate with the CIA and FBI censoring of information (p.235); and the operative George de Mohrenschildt story; and many other areas of discussion.

“Our system of government has been traduced by the emergence of a fourth branch, the Central Intelligence Agency; a branch which repudiates legislative limits, ignores Presidential edicts, and refuses to respond to the decisions of the judiciary,” says Lane, “…the CIA alone has insisted upon and created its own rules that exempt it from seeking collaboration with the legally authorized branches of government.” (p. 280)   

“The CIA, probably the greatest threat to American principles of democracy, remains unaccountable to Congress or to the American people for its transgressions or the expenditure of its burgeoning budget…a leading terrorist entity.” (p. 253)

INEVITABLE CRITICISMS

Martin Hay in his Citizens for Truth about the Kennedy Assassination (CTKA) book review took issue with Lane that, primarily, Lane left out many areas in the topic that need to be investigated further; these investigations would additionally strengthen the case for conspiracy.

Hay, unfortunately, took issue with Lane’s connecting Fidel Castro’s former girlfriend Marita Lorenz’s story to the Kennedy assassination. Lorenz claimed that in November 1963 she traveled to Dallas in a two-car caravan that included Frank Sturgis, Gerry Patrick Hemming and two brothers named Novo and Pedro Diaz Lanz. Unbeknownst to Lorenz at the time, Sturgis told her later that she would have unwittingly been a part of the assassination. Lorenz, however, before details became obvious, developed suspicions of the meanderings, and flew back to Miami.

“It’s a fancy little story, but Lorenz has serious credibility issues and it is not to his credit that Lane chose not to divulge them here, or in his book written largely about the trial, Plausible Denial,” said Hay. “Respected HSCA investigator Edwin Lopez told author Gerald Posner that ‘Mark Lane was taken in by Marita Lorenz. Oh God, we spent a lot of time on Marita…It was hard to ignore her because she gave us so much crap, and we tried to verify it, but let me tell you—she is full of shit. Between her and Frank Sturgis, we must have wasted over one hundred hours. They were dead ends…Marita is not credible.’” (Posner, Case Closed, p. 467)

Gaeton Fonzi, The Last Investigation, likewise told the Schweiker Subcommittee and the HSCA that Lorenz’s tale was more or less designed to waste investigators’ time. She had two versions of her travels to tell:

#  In 1977, she related a story “about heading down to the Florida keys in a two-car caravan that included Sturgis, Gerry Patrick Hemming, Alex Rorke, and ‘Rafael Del Pino or Orlando Bosch’ to launch a gun-running mission to Cuba.” In this version, the whole crew headed back to Miami.

#  The second version, she was telling the HSCA, included the same two cars, but this time the cars were heading to Dallas, and “she had bumped Del Pino and Bosch in favor of Novo and Pedro Diaz Lanz.” She added Lee Harvey Oswald into the mix (even though Oswald’s time was fully accounted for).  

Lorenz further claimed to know Oswald in Miami in 1960 and again in the Everglades in early 1961 when they were training for the Bay of Pigs: The Bay of Pigs happened in April 1961 when Oswald was in the Soviet Union. She sold this same misinformation to Lane at the Liberty Lobby trial. Hay pointed out: “…as Lane must, that these details discredit her story, he hides them from his readers by carefully excising all references to Oswald when he quotes from her testimony. As I noted above, this is not to his credit.”

THE FAKE GRASSY KNOLL AGENTS

“There is no doubt that the man on the grassy knoll seconds after the shooting was brandishing fake Secret Service credentials,” said Hay. “The question is who in 1963 had the know-how to create them? The answer, as Douglass reveals, is the CIA.”

James W. Douglass quoted from a document written by Stanley Gottlieb, chief of the CIA’s Technical Services Division, that was finally declassified in 2007 in response to a 15-year-old Freedom of Information Act lawsuit: “…over the years the TSD ‘furnished this [Secret] Service’ with ‘gate passes, security passes, passes for presidential campaign, emblems for presidential vehicles; a secure ID photo system.’” (JFK and the Unspeakable, p.266.) Hay commented that this demonstrated that the CIA and their “Cuban exile guerrillas” could easily participate and manipulate the assassination. “This is as good as Lane gets,” said Hay, “when it comes to filling in the details and connecting the CIA to the assassination.”

http://www.ctka.net/reviews/last_word_lane.html.

Some additional possibilities and coincidences that is by-passed by Lane; as related by researcher Author Gus Russo:

# Secret Service agent Mike Howard mentioned that the grassy knoll is a likely place that law enforcement security would be placed.  (Agent) Forrest Sorrels had told him: “We deputized everybody we could get our hands on — including agents from ATF [the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms], customs, border patrol, reserve police, deputy sheriffs, etc. The motorcade route in Dallas was crawling with these people, especially in Dealy Plaza and the overpass.

# Robert Gemberling, the FBI agent in Dallas who investigated Oswald after his arrest, said that he remembered being told that two Customs Agents, who worked at the Post Office building across from Dealey Plaza, were, in fact, spending their lunch break and also helping with security in the knoll area.

# FBI agent James Hosty wrote:  “I later learned that Agent [James] Powell . . . had been in downtown Dallas when the assassination occurred, doing some routine background checks at the Sheriff’s Department across the street from the assassination site. When the call came over that shots may have come from the book depository building, Powell and about twenty sheriff’s deputies dashed over to the building and volunteered their services in searching. Because Powell wasn’t in a police uniform, he at first made people suspicious and was briefly detained by the police while they confirmed his identity.”

# Moreover, Colonel Robert E. Jones, Operations Officer of the 112th Military Intelligence unit in November 1963, told the House Select Committee investigating the assassination in the late 1970’s that the 112th had “a small force, perhaps between eight and twelve men,” assisting the Secret Service in Dallas that day. It is possible that depending on the situation and if necessary, such individuals would have identified themselves as Secret Service officers.

# There was also the possibility that the alleged agent was an agent from the motorcade, Thomas Lemuel Johns, who leaped from the motorcade and surprised everyone.

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Mysterious Police and Government Agents on the Grassy Knoll

All of these possibilities are cotangent, but none would totally exclude CIA connections.

http://www.jfk-online.com/jfk100phonyss.html.

OTHER NEEDED INVESTIGATION

Hay definitely said that Lane was weak in not including some pertinent mentions and areas in his book:

#  Oswald’s associations with Guy Banister, David Ferrie, and Clay Shaw. (“Three men who were up to their eyeballs in CIA connections, or Oswald’s campaign to discredit the FPCC, or his trips to Clinton and Jackson—all of which put Oswald at the very center of intelligence intrigue.”) 

# Although Lane mentions Oswald’s stay in Russia, Lane does not mention the comparative ease with which Oswald returned home with a Russian wife.        

#  Lane only makes passing references to Ruth Paine and the possibility of her being a CIA asset. “…the Secret Service (advised Marina) to sever contact with Ruth because she was ‘sympathetic to the CIA,” says Hay, noting James Douglass on page 173 of his book.

WHY THE LAST WORD?

Lane bows to those who had been time and effort in exposing the evils behind the plot to kill Kennedy, but says there are many other areas of human rights that need support and examination; he plans to devote his time on those areas, hence the title LAST WORD. “Now I hope to spend my days writing about matters of concern to me that I have neglected,” says Lane, “the struggle of Native Americans, cases about innocent people who have been falsely imprisoned and the historic effort of American GIs to bring an end to our never-ending wars.”

Lane notes in ending: “I really do not think that more research is required. We have the unsanctioned indictment of the CIA. We lack only the will and the courage to bring about needed change.”

http://www.examiner.com/article/jfk-assassination-revisited-part-4-mark-lane-last-word.

Researcher George W. Bailey summed up the future course of action rather cogently in his review of Tuesday, December 30, 2011:

“Towards the end of his book, Mark Lane builds a case for CIA wrongdoing. There are assassinations, overthrown governments, media manipulation, CIA run military operations (which still go on today) and wacky mind control experiments. No doubt a nefarious and Machiavellian organization. However, I don’t see where Lane really pins down the CIA for John Kennedy’s death. Yes, plenty of sins here to be sure. But there is still much that is not known, records still classified for reasons of ‘National Security’ for a full case to be presented. Ultimately, big themes such as this must go conjectural in many respects.

“Never the less, Mark Lane’s, Last Word, is a lively and fast-paced read with plenty of points to show that the Warren Report doesn’t pass the smell test and more needs to be done. His response to Anthony Lewis and Vincent Bugliosi’s ad hominem attacks makes for a satisfying rebuttal to bullies. Lane displays no bitterness, just an even-keeled need to set the record straight.”

http://oswaldsmother.blogspot.com/2011/12/book-review-last-word-my-indictment-of.html.
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It is believed Dorothy Kilgallen was Assassinated
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Journalist Max Holland Defended the Warren Commission
http://www.maxholland.info/page/2/.
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http://thenwowillfail.com/2015/03/21/mind-control-mkultra/.
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Ted Kaczynski: a Product of Government Mind Experiments
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Mysterious Police and Government Agents on the Grassy Knoll
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 There was a lot of Reasons to Murder Clay Shaw
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Nazis and the NWO

The Trail of the Fourth Reich

By:

Steve Erdmann

Copyright, C, Steve Erdmann, 2013.
This article was previously published in the September 4 through September 17, 2013 issues of UFO Digest Magazine.
It is published here with permission.
ufodigest.com/article/trail-fourth-reich-0904 – 0905 – 0906
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Peter Levenda’s rather in-depth and scholarly work delved into the origins of Nazism which began far earlier than Hitler’s January 30, 1933 ascendancy.  Its origins wrest back to an early form of mysticism and perverted paganism; the Thule Society and German-Enoden, Theosophical, runic and magical concepts. Hitler was a “tool, a “creature” of the occultists. In the autumn of 1915, Hitler wrote a poem praising Wotan, the Teutonic Father God, and speaks of runic letters, magic spells, formulas, and esoteric paganism.

(Unholy Alliance, Peter Levenda. The Continuum International Publishing Group, Inc. 15 East 26th Street, New York. N.Y 10010, 2003, 423 pages, $16.95.)

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Hitler’s ascent was built on the belief that Germany’s failure in World War I was because of Capitalism, Communism, Freemasons and International Jewry. “If Hitler were in power, his listeners believed, he would throw out all these undesirable elements – by force of arms, if necessary – and the country would be right again.”

THE THULE SOCIETY

Hitler’s rise to power aligned with numerous occult beliefs and practices ranging from Rudolf Hess, Karl Haushofer and others promoting an universal Teutonic Lebensraum to additional occult influences of magician Aleister Crowley (in April, 1904, Crowley alleged contact with a spirit called Ainaz); The Golden Dawn; The Edelweiss Society; The Ordo Templi Orientis; German occult and sex-magic lodges; the Thule Society; Baron Rudolf von Sebottendorff.

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Adolf Hitler Practicing His Speech-making

“Although the Thule Gesellschaft had died a slow death,” said Levenda, “Sebottendorff was back to revive it.”

The Germans were finally able to supposedly locate what had destroyed their country, said Lavenda, brought them into war, made them lose the war: a cabal of Jews and Freemasons bent on world domination.

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The Worship of the Nazi Reich

“Democracy. Freemasonry. Judaism. Secret Societies,” said Lavenda, “the Nazis were bent on removing all trace of any philosophical opposition to their cause, for they knew the power of ideas and – the quotation of Chairman Mao notwithstanding – it was far stronger than the power of a gun.”

WEWELSBURG CASTLE AND UFO

Heinrich Himmler took control of the SS (Schutzstaffel, Guard Detachment) and created the medieval castle Wewelsburg, Chapter of the Order, built around the notion of King Arthur and the Round Table: the Inner Circle of Twelve Gruppenfuhrers who communicated with dead Teutons and other spiritual rituals (compare this to modern legends of the secreted Skull and Bones Society in America).

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Wewelsburg Castle

(The Wewelsburg Castle was alleged to be the site of a reversed-engineered crashed alien disc with occupants. The object appeared to be a multicolored ball or globe-shaped object which fell near a field near Czernich, Germany in the summer of 1936. The UFO was quickly cordoned off by SS troops from the Hirschberg SS Base, and the domed spacecraft was initially taken to a Base 211. It was also said that the disc was taken to the Wewelsburg Castle and examined by the Reich’s Study Group who applied Vril Technology to a new form of propulsion. It became known as the Tachyonator 7. Said Rob Arndt: “(It was) the first human product of reverse-engineering of non-terrestrial technology.”)

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Freiburg UFO Crash in the Black Forest in 1936.
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“These ceremonies were replete with sacred fires, torch-lit processions and invocation’s of Teutonic deities, all performed by files of young-blond-haired, blue-eyed Aryan Supermen,” said Lavenda. “Ceremonies that, according to my informants, had been revived in the Andean Mountains…at Colonia Dignidad in the 1960s and which were still being performed there was late as my trip in 1979.”

Nazi occult practices encompassed a long range of esoteric beliefs: The Nordic World-Tree, Yggdrasil, Holy Stones, The Serpent Nidhoggur, The Ahnenerbe, The World Ice Theory Division, the Thousand Year Reich, Thor, Nordic Mother-Soul, and The Holy Grail.

ARYAN CULT

Through the efforts of Karl Maria Wiligut, Otto Rahn, and Heinrich Himmler, an Aryan Cult was created as a proto-Christian society over all Europe and Asia.

“To Hitler and his followers, capitalism was immoral and they equated it with the excesses of the Jewish financiers,” said Lavenda, “that, they said, had brought the nation to ruin during the First World War and depression that followed.”

Stripped of Jewish content, Nazi revisionists of Biblical Scriptures by German academics, people became receptive of Wiligut’s ideas; the SS belief that Christ was Baldor, and a Teutonic Sun God.  The SS became knights of a New Order.

“By claiming the Grail as their own the Nazis rob Christianity of a huge chunk of its popular mythology…as it is, history records no such discovery of the Grail by the Nazis or by anyone else.”

MIND CONTROL

Documents revealed that “mind control” experiments of the Ahnenerbe at Dachau concentration camp consisted of mescaline, cannabinol, marijuana, and hypnotism. Dr. Franz Alfred Six. Ideological Research continued to work for “special forces” through his association with the Gehlen Organization – the spy cabal of ex-Nazis used by the American CIA.  Six had been selected to work on “the Jewish problem.”

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Catholic Bishop Alois Hudal sympathized with Nazi propaganda, admired the Nazi teachings of Von Liebenfels, and became Procurator of the Oder of German Knights. He aligned himself with a “neo-pagan, pan-German, volkisch movement.” Hudal worked with the underground network and established Nazi escape routes.

NAZI ESCAPE ROUTES

Many of Heinrich Himmler’s Black Order “managed to escape and set up shop in South America.”

“Hundreds of files newly released by the Argentine government of President Menem,” said Levenda, “show that many more Nazis managed to flee to South America than had been previously imagined”; true believers of the cult of the Black Order.

ODESSA

The Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO) and the Outer Head of the Order (OHO) continued in Europe and Switzerland. Elements were found in the Process Church of the Final Judgment, and Scientology.

(In addition to Lavenda’s comments, a 600-page report was discovered, which the Justice Department has tried to keep secret for four years, which provided new evidence about more than two dozen of the most notorious Nazi cases of the last three decades.

The report told of the government’s pursuit of Dr. Josef Mengele, the so-called Angel of Death at Auschwitz [part of whose scalp was kept in a Justice Department official’s drawer]. It also detailed the vigilante killing of a former Waffen SS soldier in New Jersey. It documented the government’s mistaken identification of the Treblinka concentration camp guard known as Ivan the Terrible.

Scathing disclosures came in revealing the Central Intelligence Agency’s participation with Nazi fugitives. Investigators and previous government reports had revealed the C.I.A.’s use of Nazis for postwar intelligence purposes. This report goes further by documenting the level of American cooperation and deception in the cover-up.

The Justice Department report described what it calls “the government’s collaboration with persecutors.” O.S.I investigators learned that some of the Nazis “were indeed knowingly granted entry” to the United States, despite government officials being aware of their pasts. “America, which prided itself on being a safe haven for the persecuted, became — in some small measure — a safe haven for persecutors as well,” it said.)

The creator of Hitler’s elite commando force, Otto Skorzeny, aided the escape of Nazi art treasures and fellow German colleagues. He made himself useful to American intelligence and West German industrials and reconstituted Nazi protection of the Organization of Former SS Officers (ODESSA) in the pipeline of Argentina, Egypt, England, Chile and various hideaways for an estimated 70,000 former SS officers; one of the most notable was the heavily armed estate of Colonia Dignidad. Fugitives such as Martin Bormann and Josef Mengele resided in the Dignidad village, as well as Nazi Baron Friedrich August Von Der Heydt.

Bolivia had a Nazi party called The Organization National Socialist Americans (ONSA); Chile had three Nazi parties. Argentina’s Juan Peron was blatantly pro-Nazi and pro-fascist. Most Nazi parties in South America were direct divisions of the greater Nazi party in Germany. Carlos Lehder, neo-Nazi, formed the Movement for Civil Latin National (MCLN) in 1983, and he extolled Hitler “as the greatest warrior in history” (p. 302).

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Argentinian President Juan Peron with Wife Eva in Buenos Aires in 1950.
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This was Bogota, Colombia, but Gestapo Chief Klaus Barbie reached into Bolivia in 1951.

“There was nothing ‘neo’ about Klaus Barbie,” said Lavenda, “he was the genuine article. And there was nothing ‘neo’ about Colonia Dignidad, the latest in a long line of concentration camps and cult centers courtesy of the Third Reich.”

Colonia Dignidad was “a state-of-the-black-art-detention center.” In 1986, underground rooms where prisoners had been held and tortured were discovered and identified (p. 320). A United Nations report of 1976 spoke of electronic equipment where detainees were tied naked to metal frames to receive electric shocks.

“The colony has since changed its name from Colonia Dignidad to Villa Baviera (Bavarian Village), an innocuous-sounding title,” said Lavenda, “that never the less emphasizes its sinister heritage…”

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Nazi occultism ranged at present from The Church of Satan, The Process Church of the Final Judgment, The Natural Renaissance Party, The Temple of Set, and others, such as the Universal Order. In Africa, it was the Afrikaner Resistance Movement. There was the Polish town of Nowa Ruba (Ruda) in the foothills of Fowl Mountains as a one-time Nazi stronghold. (More currently, members of the far-right group 1389 packed brochures on Kosovo and posters titled “Kosovo is Serbia” for their Warsaw trip on November 11 and 12, 2007: the group of 10 joined extreme right-wing organizations from Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary at the far-right conference. The extremists organized a march in the streets of Warsaw carrying such slogans as “All of Poland will be white” or “Enough of Jewish occupation.”)

Throughout the United States, there were many off-shoot clans: the Silent Brotherhood, the Aryan Brotherhood, The Order, and others.

OTHER SITES AND UFO CONNECTIONS

But Nazi connections extended beyond Lavenda commentary:  they extended to the topic of UFO reality.

South America is related to several Nazi syndromes: Nazism was spread throughout the country; Tercera Fuerza Nacional Socialism in Bogota, Columbia. The San Carlos de Bariloche Residencia Inalco mansion in Argentina was said to have been a hideaway for Hitler.  Brazil was also a good place to hide for the Nazis because the Mato Grosso jungle was a perfect place to disappear for Nazi fugitives who were hunted. There was also Tierra de Fuego in Argentina: It is suspected that U-boats U-530 and U-977 – along with 54 other German U-boats – “disappeared” after the war. Some allegedly relocated to the South Polar area. Hans-Ulrich Rudel of the German Luftwaffe was being groomed by Hitler to be his successor. “It is known that Rudel made frequent trips to Tierra del Fuego…one of Martin Bormann’s last messages from the bunker in Berlin to Donitz also mentioned Tierra del Fuego.”

http://naziconspiracy.onlc.eu/12-Neu-Schwabenland-the-nazi-UFO-and-the-refuge.html.

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A further Nazi hideout was said to have been the mystery villa Gustav Winter, a Nazi safe house in the Canary Islands, according to author Ernst Zundel.

Ernst Zundel recounted that a Japanese naval attaché told him in late 1943 that a German submarine was using an uninhabited island in the Falklands, and a mine barrier was placed in the lagoon entrance. It was suspected by the Japanese that submarine travels were made to the South Atlantic region and the Antarctic.

Suspected Nazi hide-a-ways range expansively throughout the world and even involve a fortress, Base 211, New Swabia, Neuschwabenland in Antarctica, a secret project by the German Special Bureau 13 connected with the “Third Reich Operation UFO.”

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“It is that thought, which reportedly drew Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party in search of the opening to Hollow Earth,” said writer/researcher Mark A. Mihalko, “an idea that may be surprising to some people. However, it is also easily believable when looking at the different locations, Antarctica and Brazil, are rumored to contain entrance ways into this realm. In fact, like Mount Shasta, the Brazilian mountains are known for UFO and strange sightings.”

A HISTORY OF DRAMATIC UFOs

South America has been replete with UFO sightings and photos (i.e, Recife, Brazil, September, 1987, photo of domed disc with cupola) for many years, extent of the continent, from Monte Grande, Argentina to El Chocca in  the Province of Corrientes, to the San Clemente, Chile “UFO Trail.”

“If it’s drama you’re looking for then the continent of South America seems to be the place to look,” said Paranormal-haze.com, “the Latin American experience of UFOs is somewhat different to that of the rest of the world in that sightings here can take a very serious turn, often resulting in serious injuries or even death.”

In August 1970, Almiro Martins de Freitas, a security guard for Funil Dam in Itatiaia, Brazil, fired at a lighted hump-shaped object which blinded the guard with a bright red flash.  He was briefly hospitalized.

In 1977 the Brazilian island of Colares was under attack by UFOs which fired what appeared to be laser beams. Over 80 people reported being attacked, 35 with symptoms of radiation sickness and burns with puncture wounds and hair loss.  Two residents were thought to have died.

Recently, on April 14, 2013, Raymond Pool and Igor Geovani sighted and photographed a strange car-size aircraft in the Serra do Gado Bravo of the mountains of Senhor Do Bonfim, Brazil – the Chapada Diamantina Mountain Range north of Bahia. A similar craft was sighted on the 19th by Isaiah Domingos Cavalcanti near Caatingvinha.

TIERRA DE FUEGO

On October 17, 2012, photographer Oscar Heredia spotted and photographed a greenish UFO between Mountain Cerro Michi and the Fangnano/Cami Lake in the Tierra del Fuego area. Residents of Tohuin said the object has been traversing the area for decades and always returned to the Mountain.

Said RealUFOs.net: “….the region of Tierra de Fuego looks like a major UFO hotspot with a ‘UFO Base’….the UFO base is believed to exist beneath an icy plateau that lays between some of the island’s many peaks.”  Government scientists have monitored and recorded large luminous objects entering and exiting the plateau. A reported UFO appeared to crash in Tierra del Fuego on September 14, 2004.

NAZI SHANGRI-LA

“Hacienda Dignidad is a mysterious place, deep in the Chilean Mountains,” said journalist and researcher Ingrid Rimland. “Allegedly, it is a trading post for Nazi UFOs.” Ernst Zundel said: “…The Hacienda Dignidad myth is only a small piece of a puzzle that is much larger, much more mysterious, encompassing people all over the globe for at least 60, maybe even 70 or 75 years.”

Ernst Zundel, a flagrantly avid Nazi and publisher of Nazi-sympathetic literature, and also an ardent observer, relayed interesting tales of Colonia Dignidad. He related a story about visitors to the “fabled (Nazi) Shangri-La” in 1978 and 1979. The trip is described through the eyes of Willibald Mattern, associate and co-author, and Zundel’s German attaché Sepp.

SOJOURN TO DIGNIDAD/ VILLA BAVIERA

Details given by Willibald Mattern and attaché Sepp described Hacienda Dignidad as home to Mercedes Benz vehicles, very modern tools and machines, state of the art hospital, dairy farm, German type buildings, Alpine-style architecture, European-type buildings, asphalt roads, and a “colony totally self-sufficient in everything; technologically equipped with their very latest amenities.” Meisterbetrieb.

STRANGE AIRCRAFT

Mattern said he saw strange aerial activity going on by very strange aircraft. He was later discouraged from investigating the ‘whine’ of what seemed to be “jet engines.” When the convoy arrived at the Hacienda, they were confronted by Aryan blonde men in trench coats and their Mercedes Benz. They were taken into custody, investigated for several days, and then released with the admonition that they were in a restricted area and not wanted. Their interrogators were clearly German. One man wore a forage cap used by German mountain troops in World War II.

REPORTER PENETRATION

According to Zundel, a reporter for the El Mercurio newspaper reported in the 40s and 50s that he did penetrate the Hacienda terrain via back roads through the mountains using pack horses “and that he did observe strange flying craft taking off and landing in some remote area of a valley away from the actual community.”

“Mattern was of the view that this place was a supply base for fresh fruit and vegetable picked up by ‘flying saucer,’”  said Ernst Zundel.  “He also felt that the colony served as a rest/recuperation and medical facility for German-staffed UFO bases further to the south, like Tierra de Fuego and even Antarctica proper.”

TWILIGHT ZONE

Founder of the village, Paul Schafer, Nazi, was arrested and sentenced for multiple crimes.  He died in a prison hospital on April 24, 2010. The decline of the village is murky. About 280 members, aged German expatriates, are isolated in the village presently. The Colonia now operates a German restaurant nearby.

Visiting the village one gets an uneasy feeling of crossing into some sort of Twilight Zone, said tourist and journalist Bruce Falconer, the way the villagers dressed, their haircuts: It’s like going back to Germany in the 1940s. 

Zundel, sometimes accused of alleged fabrication about UFOs, made substantive comments on his beliefs as late as 2002.

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UFO Sighted on August 10, 2012, over the Antarctica Neumayer Station

Explained historian Lawrence C. Wangler: “In March 1945, just before the end of the war, two German U-boats left a port on the Baltic Sea — reportedly taking with them top SS officers and key members of the flying saucer research team, plus saucer designs and plans for a gigantic underground complex. It’s widely believed that the submarines were bound for Antarctica.”

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica12.htm.

ANTARCTICA

An amazing 2006 Russian documentary was recently translated into English disclosing hidden information about a U.S. Navy Antarctica expedition in 1946/1947.

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Operation High Jump

The task force was scheduled for a six month period for scientific exploration; it was officially called “The United States Navy Antarctic Development Program.” Its operational name was High Jump, and the naval component was known as Task Force 68. It was composed of 4700 military personnel and one aircraft carrier, the USS Philippine Sea—-one of the largest carriers of the time. Operation High Jump was to establish the Antarctic research base Little America IV.

NEW ENEMY

The Naval expedition was headed by famed polar explorer Admiral Richard Byrd. Byrd’s expedition ended after only 8 weeks. According to the press, crew members going through Chilean ports described “many fatalities”; Task Force 68 had encountered “a new enemy that could fly from pole to pole at fantastic speeds.”

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Artist Conception of Nazi Saucers over Their Polar Base

The intelligence report, gathered from Soviet spies embedded in the US, revealed that the US Navy had sent the military expedition to find and destroy a hidden Nazi base.  Instead, the task force encountered a mysterious “UFO force” that attacked the military expedition destroying several ships and a significant number of planes.

http://exopolitics.org/tag/antartica.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/antarctica/antartica47.htm.

UFO ATTACK

Lieutenant John Sayerson, a flying boat pilot, said a strange aircraft attacked his ship: “The thing shot vertically out of the water at tremendous velocity, as though pursued by the devil.” The craft flew through the masts of the ship causing radio antenna to oscillate back and forth in its turbulence. A Martin Flying Boat from the USS Currituck was struck with an unknown type of ray from the object. Ten miles away, the torpedo-boat USS Maddox burst into flame and began to sink. John P. Szewach, radioman on the USS Brownson, likewise observed on January 17, 1947, the mayhem and destruction wrought by the attack. Researchers surmised that the purpose of the attack was to deter the task force and force it to leave but not to destroy the armada.

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Artist Conception of Nazi Flying Saucers

Admiral Byrd admonished cryptically that this was a “new enemy that could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds.” Byrd was quoted on March 5, 1947, Chilean El Mercurio newspaper about an “invasion of the country by hostile planes flying over one or both poles.” Byrd said: “I have to warn my compatriots that the time has ended when we aren’t able to take refuge in our isolation and rely on the certainty that the distance, the oceans, and the poles were a guarantee of safety.”

In the October 1947 National Geography Magazine in an article entitled “Our Navy Explores Antarctica,” Byrd referred several times to Antarctica as “the mystery land beyond the pole.”

     THE FOURTH REICH   

Said author/investigator Jim Marrs in “Secret Societies that Threaten to Take over America: Rise of the 4th Reich”: “The Germans were defeated in World War II…but not the Nazis. They were simply forced to move. They scattered to the four corners of the world. Many of them came to the United States and penetrated what President Dwight D. Eisenhower termed ‘The Military-Industrial Complex’…they escaped with the loot of Europe as well as rocket science and even exotic technologies. Some of this technology was so advanced that it remains classified in the U.S government files even today…the very same self-styled globalists who created National Socialism in the first place.  Their agenda matches that of the Old Bavarian Illuminati.”

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This publishing is dedicated in part to the late Jim Marrs who passed away on August 2, 2017. Marrs was a heroic and extraordinary journalist who exposed many elitist conspiracies and the machinations of the occult secret societies.  From Wikipedia: 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Marrs.

Jim Marrs (December 5, 1943 – August 2, 2017) was an American newspaper journalist and New York Times best-selling writer of books and articles on a wide range of alleged cover-ups and conspiracies. Marrs was a prominent figure in the JFK conspiracy press and his book Crossfire was a source for Oliver Stone‘s film JFK. He wrote books asserting the existence of government conspiracies regarding aliens9/11telepathy, and secret societies.  He was once a news reporter in the Dallas–Fort Worth–Arlington metroplex and taught a class on the assassination of John F. Kennedy at University of Texas at Arlington for 30 years.  Marrs was a member of the Scholars for 9/11 Truth.

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Steve Erdmann – Independent Investigative Journalist – 1967  – to the Left
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Artist Conception of Nazi Flying Saucers
http://www.roswellufomuseum.com/research/ufotopics/naziufocrash.html.
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https://sites.google.com/site/nazibelluncovered/.
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https://aeon.co/ideas/the-nazis-as-occult-masters-its-a-good-story-but-not-history.
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https://incognitopress.wordpress.com/2016/04/.
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http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/germany-annexes-austria.
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https://www.thrillist.com/culture/secret-cia-operations-mkultra-operation-paperclip-mind-control.
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UFO Sighted on August 10, 2012 over the Antarctica Neumayer Station
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/16/antarctic-ufo-attracts-co_n_1775728.html.
https://www.livescience.com/22299-conspiracy-theorists-ufo-over-antarctica.html.
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Argentinian President Juan Peron with Wife Eva in Buenos Aires in 1950.
Peron Sold 10,000 Blank Argentine Passports to the Nazi Odessa.  
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117093/Secret-files-reveal-9-000-Nazi-war-criminals-fled-South-America-WWII.html.
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Another version of this article can be seen at https://wordpresscom507.wordpress.com/2017/08/07/the-hidden-reich/

Triangles and Mysteries!

Triangular UFO Mysteries

By:

Steve Erdmann

Copyright, C, Steve Erdmann, 2014.

This article appeared in the December 14, 2014 issue of UFO Digest.
It is printed here with permission.
ufodigest.com/article/ufo-mysteries-1213
Reviewers and journalists may quote small passages along with credits

(Triangular UFOs: An Estimate of the Situation, David Marler, Richard Dolan Press, Box 92188 Rochester, New York 14692, www.keyholepublishing.com, 2013, 276 pages, $19.95.)

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David Marler analytically laid out the contours of special types of UFOs that somewhat appeared as triangular aircraft or similar phenomena going back as far as 1882.

“These are craft of unknown origin. We appear to be confronted with something other than human technology, therefore the implications are profound,” said Marler. “The objects may be spatial, temporal, or dimensional in origin.”

Not knowing the real intentions of the operators of such craft, Marler suggested we stand ever-vigilant to the phenomena and continue to gather as many hard facts as we can.

Where we stand today in reference to triangular UFOs and the UFO subject as a whole is just a stepping stone in our examination of this phenomenon,” said Marler. “Questions remain as to the relationship, if any, of these triangular UFOs relative to the others of varying descriptions. Each person who reviews this material can make their own conclusions.”

                                     CHARLES FORT AND DONALD KEYHOE          

Charles Fort, the person who chronicled strange events at the turn of the century, and gave meaning to the term “Fortean,” recorded Charles Tilden Smith’s sighting of two triangular dark shapes on April 8, 1912 (Chrisbury, Wiltshire, England). “It is not a stretch of the imagination to assume,” said Marler, “that two large triangular-shaped shadows were most likely caused by two large triangular-shaped objects.”

The late UFOlogist Donald Keyhoe related accounts of triangular-shaped objects that were also seen in England and Scotland in 1895, said Keyhoe (p. 63).

Mr. Helger Berg and a work-companion spotted a triangular UFO at Eklorna, Alaska in 1936. “…the sound reminded me of when the pilot shuts down a turbine. It had a kind whining sound until it finally peters out,” said Berg.

Similar triangular UFOs were seen in 1950, 1953, and 1954 in Korea, Germany, California, New York, and Canada, not to mention in many other countries around the globe.

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Eleven crew members of a British Overseas Airways Corporation (BOAC) Strato Cruiser and most of its fifty-one passengers saw a similar UFO for eighteen minutes on June 29, 1954. The object at first appeared to be a dark blob accompanied by an “array of objects” lined up three in front and three in back. “They likened it to a battleship with escort ships,” said Marler.

SHAPE-SHIFTING UFO 

Captain James Howard noted that the smaller objects appeared to enter and exit the larger object. The larger object appeared to change from a pear-shaped UFO to “an enormous delta-wing plane” and then to a “giant telephone receiver lying on its back in the sky.”

A jet interceptor pilot noted that upon his approach to the UFOs, the smaller objects suddenly disappeared. Crew members said that the smaller objects went into the larger object. The larger object said to be as large as an ocean liner, shrunk in size and disappeared.

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A MUFON CGI Image of a Typical Triangle UFO

Another typical sighting was on September 3, 1965, by law enforcement officials, deputies Bethel McCoy and Bob Goode, as they drove south of Houston, Texas.  “It hovered in the air. It was eerie,” the witnesses said, “It was shaped like a triangle 200 feet long and 40 to 50 feet high. It had a purple light on its left side and a blue one on its right side.”

The UFO followed them in a high-speed pursuit, and then abruptly stopped and disappeared.

Mrs. Robert Gorisek of La Salle, Illinois witnessed a triangular object on March 25, 1966, that hovered over her car for over an hour. The object seemed to follow her and several witnesses as they drove through several towns.

On the same day, Mrs. R.H. Chappell and Miss Janie Kidd observed the triangular UFOs in Victoria, British Columbia; both had ruby red lights that were flashing back and forth between the UFOs “as if they were signaling each other.”

THE JANUARY 5, 2000 TRIANGLE

Marler outlined one of the best typical triangular UFO cases, during the night of January 5, 2000, which invaded the skies over Highland, Lebanon, Shiloh and Millstadt, Illinois. The UFO was witnessed by multiple law enforcement officers as well as several civilian people. Sighting-descriptions varied from triangular to a box-shaped object as big as a “two-story house.”

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View of Rear and the Underside of January 5, 2000, Triangle UFO

Officer Craig Stevens gave a classic description of the object as it passed near Liederkranz Park on the north end of Millstadt, Illinois. The UFO appeared about 500 to 1,000 feet in altitude. It moved very slowly with a low decibel buzzing sound. “He could see the object had a white light on the left side, right side, and center of the back end,” said Marler, “In addition, there was a single red light on the bottom. The back end also appeared to be slightly recessed.”

Officer Stevens took Polaroid pictures which did not turn out, except to show blurry lights.

Officer Ed Barron and Officer David Martin observed the object to travel about ten miles in two to three seconds, with an estimated UFO speed of 12,000 miles per hour.

“The resulting effect should have been the creation of a sonic boom which would have rattled the entire area,” said Marler. “However, no such reports were made by the witnesses or residents of the surrounding areas.”

Marler speculated amongst several theories including an unknown and secret military craft. “The second is that this was not a military vehicle and was completely foreign to military officials,” said Marler. “If this scenario is true, the implications are chilling. A genuine UFO flew by a major military installation and caught the military completely by surprise to the point where no overt defensive response was initiated.”

THE TINLEY PARK UFOs 

On the evenings of August 21 and October 31st, 2004, at Tinsley Park, Illinois, a triangular UFO was sighted by numerous witnesses (including three videos and three photographs).

“In at least two videos the object was recorded rotating in the base below and above itself. This is a very unusual maneuver clearly recorded and then mentioned in the narration,” said MUFON State Director, Sam Maranto.

One 48-year-old witness said that about 10 p.m. on August 21st, 2004, a red light came along the same path of the previous triangular UFO flight path. There was no noise and the object floated very slowly over the tops of houses.

“Their evaluations of footage and Graphic illustrations of the estimated size of the triangular object is nothing short of dynamic,” said Sam Maranto about a UFO Hunters television show, “they did an excellent job getting the point across in the show that, whatever the nature of the object, it was many times larger than anything in our flying arsenal today.”    

TRIANGLE CHARACTERISTICS

In chapter seven, Marler traveled through twenty profile characteristics that seemed to have defined the triangular UFOs.

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Photo of Belgium Triangle Craft – June 1990

A triangular craft spotted near Fleet, England in 1978 moved in a “triangular pattern.” “It was very erratic going backward and forwards,” said the witness.

Triangle crafts were witnessed during 1980-1981 in the state of Pennsylvania. In one instance, the object “is described as a triangle shaped, makes no noise but moves quickly back and forth and up and down.”

Other triangle UFOs were flying with “blunt-end-forward.”  On January 31, 1978, a New Jersey woman saw a triangle-craft about 11 p.m.  “It was a triangle with the point at the back and a lot of red and white lights,” said the witness, “more than planes usually have.”  There was no sound.                     

A triangular object with luminous points of light on its angles was spotted in 1965 in Bienne, Sweden, moving very fast north to south along the Jura Mountains. Suddenly, the object stopped, changing color from yellow to dark red, made a 180-degree turn – a 90-degree change of course – and vanished.                                              

About 7:00 p.m., January 1994, Fujitsu-gun, Japan, a witness was approached in his car by a bright light, which he recollected as three lights attached to a dark triangular-shaped object which flooded his car with a brilliant white light described “as being just like a searchlight.”  The object increased its speed and disappeared.

Other triangle UFOs were flying with “blunt-end-forward.” On January 31, 1978, a New Jersey woman saw a triangle-craft about 11 p.m.  “It was a triangle with the point at the back and a lot of red and white lights,” said the witness, “more than planes usually have.”  There was no sound.                      

A triangular object with luminous points of light on its angles was spotted in 1965 in Bienne, Sweden, moving very fast north to south along the Jura Mountains. Suddenly, the object stopped, changing color from yellow to dark red, made a 180-degree turn – a 90-degree change of course – and vanished.

About 7:00 p.m., January 1994, Fujitsu-gun, Japan, a witness was approached in his car by a bright light, which he recollected as three lights attached to a dark triangular-shaped object which flooded his car with a brilliant white light described “as being just like a searchlight.”  The object increased its speed and disappeared.

On November 3, 1961, about 4:30 p.m. in Eyres Monsell, England, a witness observed a triangular object with an orange center; the object flew an estimated 600 miles per hour and resembled an Auro Vulcan bomber in size.

OTHER VIEWPOINTS

Marler’s book was fore worded by retired US Army Colonel John Alexander. Alexander had an impressive career as a Green Beret war hero, as well as an adviser to the CIA, the U.S Special Operations Command and the National Intelligence Council on Foreign Relations. While genuinely upholding the reality of alien UFOs, Alexander has done his share of critical debunking of much of ufology, to the chagrin of many ufologists.  He debunked, in this case, the belief that triangular UFOs were actually secret military vehicles:

“Regarding triangular UFOs, in particular, conspiracy theorists repeatedly have taken the position mentioned above – secret government research. It never mattered that such a conclusion defies both facts and logic specifically, while the government does develop advanced aircraft in secret,” said Alexander, “they do not conduct test flights of well-illuminated prototypes near the major metropolitan area. Yet, that is where many of the large triangles have been observed.”  (p. 2.)

(There were herein several controversies related to the topic of the origins of triangular aircraft that are outside of the book, which Erdmann is attempting to cover.).

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Micheal S. Heiser – Researcher

Dr. Michael Heiser’s posts included summaries and opinions of Mr. Marler’s work, as well as thoughts on a foreword for the book provided by Colonel John Alexander. Dr. Heiser supported Mr. Marler for his research and endorsed the book to those interested in UFOs. Heiser also expressed concerns about dodgy lapses of relevant data, particularly committed by Colonel John Alexander. Colonel Alexander continued to suggest that he could identify triangular craft that were regular secret operations as opposed to those which are not, “implying some are supposedly not (normal aircraft…SE), all the while at least pretending to be virtually oblivious to the history of man-made triangle craft and the interest held in them by two of his former employers, the Department of Defense and Robert Bigelow’s National Institute of Discovery Science.”

http://ufotrail.blogspot.com/2013/07/those-mysterious-men-and-their-flying.html.

Dr. Heiser posted on his personal blog, UFO Religions, in what had so far been a two-part post titled, Thoughts. Michael Heiser, who holds a Ph.D. in Hebrew Bible, recently made a couple particularly noteworthy comments on Marler’s book about triangular UFOs.

“…All the above makes it very odd that the words ‘dirigible’ and ‘airship’ do not even appear in Marler’s index. It’s as though research in that direction and behavioral overlap didn’t even register with him. Since those terms don’t appear in his index, it makes sense that the names of Busby and Danelek are also absent. They are the authors of the two major books on the airship sightings in the late 1890s.”

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Artist Depiction of The Airships Wave of 1896 – 1897

(Michael Busby’s “Solving the 1897 Airship Mystery” is the third of the airship flap books after J. Allan Danelek’s “The Great Airship of 1897” and Daniel Cohen’s “The Great Airship Mystery: A UFO of the 1890s.”).

RICH HISTORY OF AIRSHIP CRAFTS

Dr. Heiser and others pointed to the Patent Office which housed numerous patents and diagrams of mechanized dirigible and triangular aircraft that he felt tangent to the discussion:

# Patent No. 43,449. 1864.

# Patent No. 526, 394. 1894.                 

# Patent No. 1,374, 487. 1921. Triangle-shape craft.

# Patent No. 1,451, 503. 1923. H.A. Goetz.

# Patent No. 1,730, 910. 1929.

# Patent No. 1,861,069. 1932. W.H. Smith. Saucer-shaped craft.

“But if we assume the craft to be neither imaginary nor extraterrestrial, what is left? Only one possibility remains, and that is that the vessel seen in the skies over much of the United States in the winter of 1896-97 was a powered balloon or, more accurately, a dirigible, possibly being put through its paces by some intrepid inventor intent on bringing lighter-than-air flight to humanity.”

Jeff Allan Danelek.  http://www.world-mysteries.com/gw_adanelek_1897.htm.

“I’m not going to claim that dirigible airship technology is ‘the’ explanation for triangular craft, or even that there is a direct line of evolution from the early patents to today,” said Heiser. “For sure one could make that case, but that wouldn’t actually prove that airships are behind the triangular UFOs. It would only provide a working theory.  I don’t know those triangular UFOs are dirigible, even nuclear ones.

“Their omission from the discussion is unwarranted. I read Marler’s book quickly and perhaps there’s some mention of any of this, but I would have missed it for brevity. He too quickly concludes that explanations not focused on ETs are the drawing board for some time…I’m no more omniscient than Colonel Alexander, but I’ll be more upfront about that. What I do know is that this technology deserves to be part of the discussion…(not) only about the delta-wing jet craft. He’s missed the Airbus.”

http://drmsh.com/2013/07/14/thoughts-book-triangular-ufos-part-2/
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Igor Pasternak and Worldwide Aeros Corporation Passenger Blimp 

Heiser continued with a list of modern Lighter Than Air (LTA) aircraft that demonstrated the actuality of this generation of flight. The Department of Defense (DOD) had committed $35,000,000 to an “Aero” prototype. Heiser acknowledged several modern LTA crafts, such as Lockheed Martin’s “Sky tug.”  Another is the “Space Blimp”:

“The orbital airship, also called the space blimp, is a proposed space transportation system that carries payloads to and from low Earth orbit…In the Airship to Orbit (ATO) design envisioned by JP Aerospace, there are three components. A conventional airship (Ascender) lifts payloads up to 30-40 kilometers above the ground – roughly the maximum altitude a conventional airship can achieve. At this altitude, the second component, a docking station (Dark Sky Station), acts as a resupply station for the third stage. The third stage is an ‘orbital airship’ (Orbital Ascender), which takes payloads to low earth orbit via an ion engine in three to nine days (i.e., it accelerates itself horizontally to orbital velocity and gains sufficient altitude). Their estimated marginal costs are one dollar per ton per mile of altitude, and their development costs thus far have been under one million dollars.”

 http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Orbital:airship.html.
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Artist Conception of a TR-3B  Spy Craft

Tom Levine of Levicom, LLC (levicom@comcast.net. PO Box 1948, Fair Oaks, California, 95628) had done extensive research into February 2007 triangular ‘flap’ that occurred over the multiple areas during that month. Basically, Levine believed the triangles were Big Black Dirigibles (BBDs) using unconventional and electrokinetic drives.  He also pointed to similar crafts such as the Dynaship 2 Aereons.

http://black-triangles.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?orderby=updated.

NOTED UFOLOGISTS

Clyde Lewis outlined the opinions of UFO researcher Tim Mathews in UFO Evidence.Org:

“Tim Mathews is the ‘Angry young man’ of British ufology. He has upset the cozy state that the British scene had got into the post-Bufora/Alien Autopsy film and has earned a fast reputation for straight talking and cutting through much of the malaise the scene found itself in the last year.  He believes that many sightings can be explained by secret aircraft and suppressed military tests. Mr. Mathews exposes a world of political maneuvering by the authorities to protect financial and political interests. He has exposed the existence of secret planes from year’s back, which would be considered ‘cutting edge’ today.

“Mathews believes that giving the label of an extraterrestrial craft to a UFO is premature, and has spent a lot of his time showing that Military Technology is the most likely answer behind the enigmatic UFO.  His research has shown that a lot of flying disc and triangle technology comes from Nazi Germany.  It has always been the objective of designers of aircraft to find a craft that can ascend and descend vertically.  The craft would have to be circular without wings. Over time we have seen these craft and attributed their remarkable capabilities to some extra-terrestrial intelligence.”

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1573.htm.

Marler offered the testimony of several noted ufologists and scientists on the topic of UFOs and triangular crafts..

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Researcher John Alexander

John Alexander had commented on the belief that secret military operations impinged upon sightings of triangular UFOs, having previously been the director of all USAF research and development at Wright-Patterson AFB: he asked a military official in the Secret Projects division about his research and triangular aircraft:

“He indicated we had nothing larger than the C-5 although the Russian Antonov AN-124 is even bigger. Neither of these approach the size reported on many occasions. I am also aware of a proposal by one of the topmost aerospace defense contractors to build a large semi-rigid, lighter-than-aircraft specifically for logistical purposes. They indicated they could not even get any military support for the concept and that was within the last fifteen years.” 

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Heiser noted that his research contradicted Alexander’s comments. He also wondered, despite outward appearances, if Alexander was privy to highest “Need to Know” information at many different security levels, or was simply being led away from “all” the facts.

http://michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/category/book-reviews/.
http://drmsh.com/2013/07/14/thoughts-book-triangular-ufos-part-2/.

Marler quoted Richard M. Dolan, UFO historian:

“Certainly, many doubts remain, but I do believe that the U.S military has some sort of flying triangle, perhaps several types…even so, it is a long stretch to argue that all of the triangle reports can be attributed to ‘our’ technology.  Frankly, many of these crafts do not appear to come from any conceivable terrestrial source.”  (p. 245)

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Richard Dolan – UFO Researcher

Investigator Ray D. Sanford said on November 18, 2014, that he likewise did not exclude an extraterrestrial source:

“Along with his gift of penetrating `trait analysis’ [See, especially, chapter 7, Establishing a Profile.], the author thoroughly demolishes the myth that the class of triangular and quasi-triangular objects defined in his analysis could be ‘black project’ vehicles. And Marler doesn’t just provide abundant descriptive evidence that the classes of evidence defined in his fascinating study constitute a group of vehicles unmatched by any terrestrially-sourced technology, he provides readers some examples that reveal state-of-the-art terrestrial technology as highly inferior by comparison.

“For example, on page 200, the author bolsters that conclusion with his highly appropriate reference from the Washington Post of August 15, 2012, headed ‘Hyper-sonic craft X-51A fails the latest test.’  That ‘Wave rider’ aircraft had to be launched from a B-52 bomber, incorporated a scram-jet combustion engine (producing a fairly conventional looking effect-trail behind it), and the flight had to be quickly scrapped due to a problem with a control surface.”

http://ufos.cc/ufo-books/triangular-ufos-an-estimate-of-the-situation-reviews/.

United Kingdom researcher George Wingfield pondered: “However scientists do speculate that travel through space and time might one day be possible if mass is somehow converted into energy in a non-destructive way that allows its reconstruction when it reaches its destination.”

21 Facts About The Unresolved UFO Incident at Rendlesham Forest

https://interestingengineering.com/21-facts-about-the-unresolved-ufo-incident-at-rendlesham-forest

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Witness Artwork of Sighted Rendlesham UFO 
http://cryptopark.com/rendlesham-forest-incident-binary-code-images-decoded/

http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/pennistonnotebook.htm

“Much has been written on the subject (of the Rendlesham case…SE).  However, this brief review serves to illustrate yet one more triangular UFO report,” said Marler, “that does not conform to the typical profile we are familiar with.”

THE CENTER FOR UFO STUDIES

Mark Rodeghier, Scientific Director for the Center for UFO Studies, the international study group originated by Dr. J. Allen Hynek, summarized conclusions for extraterrestrial origin of high strangeness triangular craft:

“As we compared triangle UFOs to the triangle – and – boomerang-shaped aircraft developed by the military, it became clear that the vast majority of ‘triangle UFOs’ were not conventional, or unconventional, technology.  I described this with aviation experts and aviation journalists, and they were uniformly unaware of any terrestrial craft that could be causing these reports.”  (p. 245.)

“Finally, the large, slow triangle UFOs, viewed by hundreds, even thousands, demonstrated how willfully the establishment, represented by government, academic, and the elite news media, can disregard something that is so ubiquitous, so visible, and so unearthly.  It is possible not to see the elephant in the room, even when that elephant is a 300-foot triangular-shaped UFO.”  (p. 248.) 

MAKE OWN CONCLUSIONS

A thorough search of Marler’s book did reveal many new aspects of the on-going triangular UFO mystery.  There were ample artwork and witness documents in the book.

Certainly, the bizarre and very strange performances of many triangular UFOs did tend to dismiss a normal terrestrial origin. The key word here is Normal. It may be possible that in the twists and turns of history there were hidden histories wherein are secreted a hybrid origin of ‘normal’ but also alien roots.

Fortean researchers Nick Redfern and Irene Bott summarized in Alien Encounters Magazine:          

“There are two scenarios: either AVRO and British Aerospace have been flying highly advanced triangular shaped aircraft throughout Manchester and the surrounding areas for at least four decades (and if so, why, forty years on, is such technology not in widespread use?), or an unknown presence has been operating in our skies and utilising triangular aeroforms for more than four decades.”

http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1571.htm.

Steve Erdmann suggested a “Third Rail” explanation behind, not just triangular UFO sightings, but many reported high-strangeness UFOs: that an alien and secretive reality has coexisted alongside our own (more obvious) existence.

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http://ufodigest.com/article/lost-lore-1007.
http://ufodigest.com/article/trail-fourth-reich-0904.
http://ufodigest.com/article/ufo-stalkers-0331.

Human inventors were thinking along these designs and diagramming inventions around the turn of the 20th century: Electrical genius Nikola Tesla had programs for spacecraft.

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One of Nicola Tesla’s Flying Machine Inventions
http://www.scribd.com/doc/21461315/Nicola-Tesla-US-Pat-165514

TESLA’S NEW MONARCH OF MACHINES

From an interview with Nikola Tesla – New York Herald Tribune, Oct. 15, 1911:

“Not at all,” said Dr. Tesla. “The aeroplane is fatally defective. It is merely a toy–a sporting play-thing…The flying machine of the future–my flying machine–will be heavier than air, but it will not be an aeroplane. It will have no wings. It will be substantial, solid, stable…My flying machine will have neither wings nor propellers. You might see it on the ground and you would never guess that it was a flying machine. Yet it will be able to move at will through the air in any direction with perfect safety, higher speeds than have yet been reached, regardless of weather and oblivious of ‘holes in the air’ or downward. currents

“It will ascend in such currents if desired. It can remain absolutely stationary in the air, even in a wind, for a great length of time. Its lifting power will not depend upon any such delicate devices as the bird has to employ but upon positive mechanical action.”

“You will get stability through gyroscopes?” the interviewer asked.

“Through gyroscopic action of my engine, assisted by some devices I am not yet prepared to talk about,” he replied.

Dr. Tesla smiled an inscrutable smile.

All I have to say on that point is that my airship will have neither gas bag, wings nor propellers,” he said. “It is the child of my dreams, the product of years of intense and painful toil and research. I am not going to talk about it any further. But whatever my airship may be, here at least is an engine that will do things that no other engine ever has done, and that is something tangible.”

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One Example of Nicola Tesla’s  Flying Saucer Inventions

http://www.tfcbooks.com/tesla/1911-10-15.htm.

http://pritchardschool.com/Teslas_Flying_Machine.pdf.
http://www.henrymakow.com/nikola_tesla2.html#sthash.GirCDGzY.dpuf.

“Until hard UFO evidence is presented for the general public’s consumption (e.g., actual UFO parts thereof), this mystery will continue,” said Marler. “However, the thirst for understanding to fuel the investigations and research until the day when a better understanding is made of this most intriguing phenomenon.”  (p. 241)

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(An ending footnote of interest in regards to the triangular sighting report mentioned on pages 204-206 about the December 19, 1967 triangle. The report, if I am correct, was discovered by Steve Erdmann while he visited Marler’s home during one of several visits.  Erdmann and Marler were researching the files for relative data.  Erdmann made a somewhat “Eureka”  exclamation upon spotting the previously undiscovered December 19 report and presented it to Marler, to his joy; history in the making.)

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You can reach Steve Erdmann at dissenterdisinter@yahoo.com or independenterdmann@gmail.com. You can friend him at Facebook –  https://www.facebook.com/stephen.erdmann1 or visit the Dissenter/Disinter Group at https://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/171577496293504/.  His Facebook email is http://facebook.com/stephen.erdmann1.
You can also visit his articles at the following:
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http://www.minds.com – TheDissenter,
http://www.ufospotlightwordpress.com,
http://www.ufodigestblog.wordpress.com,
http://www.ufodigest.com,
Alternate Perception Magazine: http://www.apmagazine.info/,

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One Example of Nicola Teslas’s  Flying Saucer Inventions
http://mysteries261.rssing.com/chan-14004438/all_p7.html.
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http://dbarkertv.com/TRIANGULAR%20UFOS%20DAVID%20MARLER.htm.
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Photo of Belgium Triangle Craft – June 1990
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_UFO_wave.
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Researcher John Alexander
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread994659/pg49.
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Micheal S. Heiser – Researcher
https://wn.com/skywatchtv_news_6_1_16_dr._michael_heiser_ufos,_ezekiel’s_wheel,_and_jerome’s_hat.
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http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tesla/esp_tesla_26.htm.
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Richard Dolan – UFO Researcher
http://www.ufohub.net/.
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View of Rear and the Underside of  January 5, 2000, Triangle UFO
http://www.dbarkertv.com/default2.htm.
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Artist Conception of a TR-3B  Spy Craft
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/745662/Triangle-UFOs-real-TR-3B-MUFON.
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http://www.airlinerspotter.com/antonov-cargo-passenger-aircraft.htm.
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The Airships Wave of 1896 – 1897
https://www.revolvy.com/topic/Mystery%20airship&item_type=topic.
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One of Nicola Tesla’s Flying Machine Inventions
http://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/01/02/nikola-teslas-5-lost-inventions-that-threatened-the-global-elite/.
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Igor Pasternak and Worldwide Aeros Corporation Passenger Blimp 
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=4193.
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Witness Artwork of Sighted Rendlesham UFO 
http://cryptopark.com/rendlesham-forest-incident-binary-code-images-decoded/
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A MUFON CGI Image of a Typical Triangle UFO
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/783597/TRIANGLE-UFO-NEWS-Pennsylvania-CANNOT-be-explained-MUFON.
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Lazar says this is it!

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The Bob Lazar Story: Believe it or Not

By:

Steve Erdmann

Copyright, C, Steve Erdmann Brent Raynes, 2020

Alternate Perceptions Magazine, June 2020

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Bob Lazar has come forth in a tell-all book about his excursions as an engineer and scientist at the mysterious S4 installation near the secretive Area 51 in Groom Lake, Nevada.  Lazar writes in plain English that is suspenseful and relentless.   If true, we are confronted, once again, with a powerful and secret reality that could leave us suspended in mid-air beyond common sensibilities.

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“…of credible witnesses, including Black Aces commander Daniel Fravor about the capabilities of the craft he encountered, have only bolstered Lazar’s story…Fravor thinks Lazar is legit.” (p. xxvii, George Knapp, chief investigative reporter for KLAS-TV, Las Vegas)

I-Team: A look at how Bob Lazar interviews match up with ...
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(DREAM LAND, Bob Lazar, Simon & Schuester, Interstellarbooks.com, 2033 San Elijio Avenue, #403, Cardiff by the Sea 92007, 2019, 243 pages, $23.99)

Dreamland (Audiobook) by Bob Lazar, George Knapp - foreword ...

Lazar was attempting to get a higher security clearance than the Q Clarence that he had, moving him to a Majestic Clearance for him to work at the EG&G Special Projects Division. Lazar had worked in scientific communities before, not to mention a lucrative photo development business he owned. Lazar had some publicity from his proclaimed “Jet Car.”  Becoming dispirited in working for Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL), he set-up Lazar Energy Systems. Lazar’s interest in pyrotechnics was hand in hand with his occupation at Fairchild Electronics as a technician repairing broke circuit boards and enabled him to attend school at Caltech. Lazar equally made some profitable business investments, one paying about $100,000 a month at the time he purchased it.

https://www.mysterywire.com/ufo/bob-lazar-describes-alien-technology-housed-at-secret-s-4-base-in-nevada-part-5/

“Success, for us, and for most people, meant making money,” says Lazar.  “If it took running three separate businesses, not taking vacations, and having work-related issues on your mind twenty-four hours a day and seven days a week, then that was a price we were willing to pay.”

These pressures, plus his wife’s (Carol) pancreatic cancer, deep depression led to her suicide.  Lazar remarried to “Tracy” in April of 1986 in Las Vegas.  Due to Tracy’s encouragement and Lazar’s self-determination, his photo business continued—plus his interest  in science and academic life.  Lazar built his own Windhorst Machine as well as a Tesla coil.  Lazar’s model rocket launches at Salisbury Park were sometimes successful but dangerous.

One of Lazar’s “home projects” was his interest in Plasma Containment and magneto dynamics (MHD)

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Eager in continuing his engineering career with Los Angeles National Laboratories at their Meson Physics Facility, Lazar wished to tour the Van de Graff generator.

“I felt like I had stepped into the world of science fiction,” says Lazar.  “I was moving among men and women with an intellectual capacity that was as nearly great as the power these machines were generating.”  After Lazar was hired, he found his co-workers “serious minded and watchful.”

Lazar attended MIT on bequest of Meson..

MEETING EDWARD TELLER

Lazar met Edward Teller while Teller was preparing to give a lecture in Los Angles. Teller had been called The Father of the Hydrogen Bomb, part of the Manhattan Project, and Teller worked with renown scientist Werner Heisenberg Weis Bohr, advocated for the Strategic Dense Initiative (Star Wars Defense), and worked on the precursor project called Excalibur.

“As it turned out, I got a job as a result of that meeting with Teller,” says Lazar, “and, later, a whole lot more attention than I ever wanted or needed.” (p. 32)

Lasar began his rigorous routine trips to EG+G’s remote site at Groom Lake; one time, he was led to a facility inside a large hill with an entry door to what had become to be known as S4.  His handler, Dennis Mariani, was the other person on the bus in that trip, and it was also the time Lazar was given his identification badge which would work as an optical scanner.  Immediately was a quick medical examination followed by a trip to another office where Lazar was asked to examine a stack of folders that gave “overviews” of a “Project Galileo”; there was a mention of “extraterrestrials.”  Apparently, some kind of “accident” had been involved in Galileo beforehand.

Project Galileo apparently consisted of several “divisions,” each did not work in concert sequentially and did not share information with one another, no communication between “work groups” was allowed, other than their direct work partners or parties which would include alienation, dismissal or prosecution.   Project Looking dealt the materials side of the craft. Project Sidekick explored craft weaponization.

“And here was an object that was claimed,” says Lazar “to be made of a single material!”  

Lazar speculates that the technology came from somewhere other than the United States, and it was his function to understand “how” it worked and “if” we could produce it.  Someone had filed a possible “origin” of the craft and had determined that it came from the Zeta Reticuli star system: 39 million light years from Earth. A “biological” folder contained black and white photos of a “humanoid organism,” a torso, arm, legs and a “differentiated”  mass of tissue in the mid cavity, and other medical notes that were hard to understand, confusing Lazar to the point of  losing focus on reality.

Dennis Mariani led Lazar into a special laboratory and introduced him to Barry Castillo.  Their assignment focus was a Garbage can-sized cylinder “with no seams, no welds, no fasteners, no sharp edges…It didn’t appear to have been cast, machined, molded, formed, or jointed.”   Barry called it an “emitter”; a half-sphere of the same color and material and explained as a “reactor.”  Objects placed tween the two points—whether they be candle flames, golf balls, watches—where affected by an “unseen force” that the two researchers could best described as “anti-gravity.”

“Quantum physicists’ postulate that gravitons exist as a subatomic particle,” says Lasar.   “These are massless elementary particles that transmit the force of gravity.  How they could be created or destroyed is not yet clear.”

A “force” between the “emitter” and the “reactor” caused a black dot at the bottom of the “emitter’ as an absence of light: It was being bent by gravity—a considerable of intense gravity that the “crew” suspected would take Terawatts of power.  All that the “crews” were “slight visual distortions” and no residual heat but was one-hundred percent efficient energy transfer.

“The question of how this thing worked spun around and around again in my mind,” says Lazar.   “Somewhere I suppose the question of how this event could be happening was faintly playing, but far too softly to matter.”

The two-man crew concluded that the reactor could be “powered up” by placing two objects in “proximity to one another.”  That there also had been “limits” they also surmised in which an “accident” had previously come about with loss of life.  Perhaps, something to do with a “triangular bet” was in place as to how the system functioned.

UNSUSTAINABLE SCHEDULE

Lazar’s schedule to work at Groom Lake was almost spasmodic and unpredictably cruel, but his female companion, Tracy, swore she could carry the burden, backing-up their private business.  But, as it turned out, “I was being run ragged most days,” says Lazar, “adding to what would eventually be a heap of stress.”

Security was intense and armed personnel ‘shadowed’ the crews’ existence in the confines of the laboratory; even when they left the lab to use the restroom or cafeteria – to, in, and from.

Only once did Lazar suspect the crafts might be ‘experimental terrestrial aircraft’ when he spied a typical ‘flying saucer’ and was told to keep his hands off any objects.   “The powers wanted to understand how this craft’s propulsion system works,” recalls Lasar.  The reactor was comprised of three parts:  the housing, the tower, and the fuel.  The crew determined that the Reactor was being bombarded by a “relatively intense field of radiation within it.”

A dismay in intellectual stagnation enveloped the two when they contemplated what kind of ‘fuel’ was used by the object; using scrapings from the fuel ‘insert’ into a gas chromatograph which indicated that said fuel was a single element.  Later, mass spectral spectrometry and neutron activation analysis indicated the same thing.

“I wanted to be engaged in meaningful work and Tracy and I were ‘both adaptable,’” says Lazar, “and would find a way to accommodate the changes that loomed on the horizon for us.”

A mysterious aspect of Lazar’s private life were men parked habitually in a car only feet from his home.

Investigating the possibility of the “fuel” might have been machined from a cone rather than “out of a single flat sheet,” an ingot of the material was sent on a “closed flight” to the Los Alamos machinery division along with instructions.  Lazar understood that any residue left from the machining would be returned to S4

Dennis instructed Lazar to carry a .22 Cal Smith & Wesson “at all times you’re off-site,” Mariani said.  Lazar thought this had traces to do with his possible obtaining a Q-Clearance.

Through his friend, Gene Huff, he became acquainted with friend,  John Lear, son of Bill Lear of the Lear Jet fame; mainly because of Huff’s inadvertent mention that Lazar worked at LANL  Lazar later learned that Lear had done some work with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Gene never pressed Lazar about his duties at Area 51,  but ,coincidentally, his job at S4 seemed to bring about an interview with Dennis at a Las Vegas Police Department followed by two men from the Office of Federal Investigation (FBI) showing up at Lazar’s home.  One agent was Mike Thigpen, and they very respectfully investigated the household.

Lazar said to Dennis shortly following:  “We’re working with an unknown inside a large unknown. That’ s not a great situation to be in, especially if others have known that they could share with us.’’

Not long after this, Lazar and Barry Castillo were escorted to a hanger facility.

INSIDE ET

The three approached a familiar saucer-shaped craft fifty-feet of so in diameter and about twenty feet tall.  No seams inside or out, no panel lines, welds, rivets, or fasteners, cool to the touch and very smooth. The same material appeared throughout the craft as if cooled into shape in some injection moldings.  The seats appeared to have been made into the same fashion as if rounded flower petals.  They saw no light witches, dials, displays, and a length of pipe ran from the ceiling and exited in the floor.

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The second level of the craft had a spot where the reactor sat, the piping ran to the amplifier, and additional tubing ran to the emitter at the bottom of the craft.  A “platform section,” or the pedestal, was where the craft rested. They weren’t allowed to explore the third and top “cockpit” section.

Both Lazar and Castillo began to doubt the traditional Roswell story because beings advanced enough to build such machines should not have any difficulty coping with Earthly weather systems and related phenomena.

In eight bay areas of hangers were several more similar crafts.

The ‘crew’ watched as one craft lifted off the ground emitting a blue glow discharge, and its thirty-foot flight had no sound, but they did have a view of the emitter in action in issuing gravitational waves.  The craft landed and Dennis instructed the two to “get back to work.”

Lazar speculated that what they saw was a kind of negative gravity or anti-gravity that removed the gravitational force ahead of the direction that three emitters were pointing.  They speculated the emitter allowed the craft to move in multiple directions and could distance objects to it.  “…time and gravity are inextricably linked,’ says Lazar.   “If you controlled gravity, you also controlled time…could have come from another dimension…some point in the future.”

NO PERSONAL FEELINGS

The security oath that Lazar signed covered all aspects of his personal life, discussions, dissatisfaction with coworkers, the food in the cafeteria, sleep, no-pay checks, and even his personal feelings.  The watchers that usually parked down that street no longer hid.  A police patrol car dispatched to the scene on behalf of Lazar did little to capture the stalkers—they were merely released.  They were not even trying to stalk but came out in the open.

Occasionally, Lazar would meet with his work-out partner “Muriel” for gymnastics.   One time, Lazar’s Datsun 2802 was unlocked.  He slighted it off as his oversight.  However, Lazar was shocked to find his car with both door “…wide open, looking like a fix wing aircraft.”   Lazar says he “…did experience that gut-level twinge and burn of adrenaline kicking in.”   Nothing was taken from the car, and it didn’t seem like a usual robbery.

All this certainly didn’t seem normal, nor was having his phones tapped, or having signed a document “that essentially stated that I agreed to waive every one of my Constitutional rights…”  All of this indicated that Lazar was under strict control with warnings.

Lazar concluded that it was time to share all this knowledge with someone or fear he “might  wind up somewhere in the Nevada desert with a bullet in my head and a fabricated suicide note left  on him…”  Lazar selected his close friend, Gene,  and Lazar stuck to only items  that he could “definitely validate”:  he showed Gene the only paycheck he had ever received from the United States Department of Naval Intelligence—$958.11.  Lazar declared to his friends that the “dollars – to – headache ratio is way out of balance.”

Lazar’s next ‘insurance revelation’ was his wife, Tracy, leaving out a few personalized details.   “I can’t see you making up something like this,” was Tracy’s concluding statement.

Lazar’s next ‘insurance policy’ confession was to John Lear who “seemed more curious than alarmed.”  Lear proved himself as trustworthy in several incidents, such as allowing Bob and Tracy to accompany him on some of his Aniak, Alaska  flights.

The sense of ease that momentarily emerged was suddenly destroyed when another “interrogation” was conducted at his home concerning what kind of code (their use of BUFON and GUFON) he and Gene were using.  Apparently, privacy was nonexistent.  They demanded Lazar to reveal all information about Gene Huff.

Lazar concludes with the unavoidable:  “…it was time to make some changed.”   “…my days at S4 were over.”   He stopped wondering about his security clearance:  “I wanted something definitely to be said or done.” (p. 157)

Lazar knew that S4 did a “high performance test flight usually on Wednesday about eight o’clock.   John Lear could ‘check it out’ with his 8-inch-diameter Celestron telescope.   John would pack the crew in his Winnebago motorhome and cover the 150 miles of desert to their destination, a spot along Groom Lake Road with their “equipment” —telescope, binoculars and video camera.

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Indeed, an orange light appeared above Papoose Mountain but was moving in increments of split seconds at about 700 mph in intervals from different points.

MARCH 29 AND APRIL 12, 1984

Lazar compared the method of investigation at S4 as “out of the window, where the scientific method didn’t consist of some definitive steps, but were more scattershot…first here, then there, then up, then down.”

A second UFO Watch was planned with Tracy and Lazar in one car, Gene in a rental car.  A ’Jason’ also joined them.  This time the light appeared to draw closer to their rendezvous point:  the glowing object moved towards them.  Jason said, ‘It was like I couldn’t see it move.  One second it was there.  The next second it was over there.  Almost like a strobe effect or something.” (p. 178)

The crews’ next trip of UFO Spotting was on April 12, another Wednesday. This time they made some evasive maneuvers on the roads they travelled. There was one new face, Kristen.  Again, the light seemed to advance toward them.  To cover their tracks, our ‘heroes’ turned onto a dirt road. Suddenly, local security confronted the UFO Watchers, as Lazar snuck away into the brush alongside of the cars.   Lazar rejoined the group once the security car was far enough away…. only to be confronted by a second police officer who wanted to know how four mysterious people had been reported, now there was five. This agent went through the process of comparing their faces to their driver’s licenses.

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Dennis Mariani and Bob Lazar met the next day in what appeared to be an atmosphere of an ominous warning.  This took place at the Indian Springs Air Force Base, and Dennis pummeled Lazar with comments and questions. A gun was made evident.

The hardest shock to Lazar was when Mariani placed a folder of surveillance revealing that wife Tracy had been in an on-going romantic affair since February 1984:  tax dollars at work, and a farewell to one’s privacy.  “…and how  cliched the whole thing was – with a co-worker that was a man whose contact I’d encouraged and helped pay for,” says Lazar, “…a flight instructor…complicated and conflicted seemed to be the buzz words for everything I experienced  at S4.”

“Nothing I’d ever done or said could justify the pain she was inflicting on me,” Lazar says. “I would never do anything like that to her.”

During the second week of May 1989 someone fired a gun shot at his auto when on the on-ramp to the highway via Charleston Boulevard.  The shot deflated a tire; two drivers sped away.

THE RESUE PLAN

John Lear and Gene Huff laid-out a rescue for Lazar:  More exposure on the George Knapp ABC affiliated TV show.  They chose John Lear to appear with no fanfare.  Lazar was to appear in silhouette and use a pseudonym of “Dennis” in their broadcast of May 14, 1989.

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Dennis called Lazar and made a vague threat, and he later called again to say that a “personal level” interview was needed.  It would be a Las Vegas Casino appointment on a Saturday. Gene Huff and a Joe Vaninerri were to be watchmen of the meeting.  Lazar saw Dennis, Lazar demanded to know “what this was all about”— and Dennis disappeared into the crowd.

Lazar’s friends discussed the events as only an interlude. The S4 surveillance teams seemed to have disappeared.

“I’d lost one wife to disease and now a second one to work and infidelity,” says Lazar. “No matter how strong you think you are mentally, or how amicable the partner, a divorce preys on your sense of self and self-worth.”

George Knapp set-up another TV session for Memorial Day 1984.

“As far me, I picked up the pieces eventually,” says Lazar.  “Over the long haul, things did get better.  I’ve spoken a few times at conferences and done some interviews.  I’ve had Hollywood film and TV producers contact me.   In the scripts they had written they tried to show me as an Action Hero, leaping onto the hoods of cars escaping the bad guys.  I’m no Action Hero.  If I wasn’t then, I’m certainly not one now.  I’m no kind of hero.”

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DENNIS JOHN MARIANI Of North Highlands, CA, May 18, 2007, a native of Oakland, age 66 years. Father of Michelle Mariani and Renee Mariani. Brother of Doug Mariani, Stephanie Vigil, Priscilla Pilger, Phyllis Lastiri and the late Gary Mariani. Former husband of Karen Mariani. Friends are welcome for visitation Tuesday 9-9:45 AM and are invited to attend services Tuesday 10 AM, all at THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS (6450 Walerga Rd., North Highlands, CA.) Interment following at 1:30 PM at Sacramento Valley National Cemetery with full military honors. PRICE FUNERAL CHAPEL (916) 725-2109

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